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Man that was bad.

The cones may have missed but there are plastic pieces within the cones, I wonder if that became shrapnel when they were hit and thats what got the tire?

It's scary how that chassis came apart. I wonder if Team Force does something different with theirs.

Glad its not worse then it is
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I'm replaying on my HiDef DVR on my 50" HiDef LCD TV. (In other words......pretty clear picture)

I can clearly SEE shards and small pieces from the first block appearing to go under Johns car.

NOT the block, but definitely pieces that were in that foam block, the mirror perhaps?

At 300 mph that could easily take out a tire and precipitate the rest of the carnage.

If not that is one HELL of a coincidence.

During the the broadcast even Mike Dunn speculated that (not Paul Page:eek:)

REX
 
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I'm replaying on my HiDef DVR on my 50" HiDef LCD TV. (In other words......pretty clear picture)

I can clearly SEE shards and small pieces from the first block appearing to go under Johns car.

NOT the block, but definitely pieces that were in that foam block, the mirror perhaps?

At 300 mph that could easily take out a tire and precipitate the rest of the carnage.

If not that is one HELL of a coincidence.

During the the broadcast even Mike Dunn speculated that (not Paul Page:eek:)

REX
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DITTO....(mines only a 42")
 
That is a possibility, my friend that has a transformer AA/FA-AA/FC, we are currently updating the chassis current sfi specs, but a couple of years back he hit the 1/8 mile block at 240 mph, it knocked of few small pieces of the block off and broke the plastic reflector that is in the middle of it, but the block did contain all the broken pieces of the reflector. Each block costs around $150.00 apiece
 
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That is a possibility, my friend that has a transformer AA/FA-AA/FC, we are currently updating the chassis current sfi specs, but a couple of years back he hit the 1/8 mile block at 240 mph, it knocked of few small pieces of the block off and broke the plastic reflector that is in the middle of it, but the block did contain all the broken pieces of the reflector. Each block costs around $150.00 apiece
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On the replay I can clearly see shiny pieces ejecting from the immediate point of impact with KB's car.

I'm by no means a professional accident investigator and also reserve the right to be absolutely off base.

But some debris of some type made it under John's car.

Whether or not this began it all is up to NHRA and JFR.

REX
 
I had not seen much video of it before, but after seeing multiple views, it is easy to believe that parts of the timing light got knocked under the car.....right now we're all just sort of guessing....looking at the parts and pieces will tell the story.
 
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On the replay I can clearly see shiny pieces ejecting from the immediate point of impact with KB's car.

I'm by no means a professional accident investigator and also reserve the right to be absolutely off base.

But some debris of some type made it under John's car.

Whether or not this began it all is up to NHRA and JFR.

REX
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even if thats true.....i don't know about the rest of you, but i am way more interested in why that chassis came apart where it did. Nobody builds a better car than Murf and nobody today is more committed to safety that John Medlen and JFR, so something catastrophic had to happen to compromise the integrity of that chassis
 
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even if thats true.....i don't know about the rest of you, but i am way more interested in why that chassis came apart where it did. Nobody builds a better car than Murf and nobody today is more committed to safety that John Medlen and JFR, so something catastrophic had to happen to compromise the integrity of that chassis
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I am also very intrested as to why the chassis broke apart right infront of the rollcage like it did, My car is based on an 86' McKinney ta/fc chassis that came from Frank Hawleys dragracing school and alot of my friends wish they had one, and they also belive like I do that have I a quality chassis.
 
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I am also very intrested as to why the chassis broke apart right infront of the rollcage like it did, My car is based on an 86' McKinney ta/fc chassis that came from Frank Hawleys dragracing school and alot of my friends wish they had one, and they also belive like I do that have I a quality chassis.
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Wow......I drove TA/FC there in June of '86........Sorry to get off topic but that would be funny if it was the same chassis.......

Frank was very complementary of McKinneys work, and assured us we had the finest beneath and around us he could get.

You definitely have a solid piece there........IMO

REX
 
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even if thats true.....i don't know about the rest of you, but i am way more interested in why that chassis came apart where it did. Nobody builds a better car than Murf and nobody today is more committed to safety that John Medlen and JFR, so something catastrophic had to happen to compromise the integrity of that chassis
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Oh........without a doubt.

However I did notice a safety safari member with the 'jaws of life' in his hand.........I am just wondering if a couple tubes had been cut away.

I did notice on the video also that a couple of the tubing ends seemed to be sqeezed/bent......I do not know if that is signifigant, or just from contact with concrete.

REX
 
From what I saw on TV last night, it looks to me as if the tire has come apart and started a sequence of events that saw the chassis break between the engine and the driver. It also looked like some debris from the block may have shot under John's car. From the right side angle it almost looks as if the car drops or collapses as it is going through the lights.

I slomo'd last night while watching it and after the rear of the chassis separates and goes off to the left you can clearly see John's feet sticking out of the whats left of the cockpit. I would expect to see some changes to the design of the foo tbox/leg area of the chassis.

I have never seen a Funny Car separate like that did. Scary stuff.

Get well soon John!!
 
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this video has all the different angles and a slo mo replay

YouTube - 2007 NHRA John Force at Dallas Huge Crash *Replays*
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Nothing different than ESPN aired, actually that is taken right off last nights broadcast.

Unfortunately that is not in HD.

You would not BELIEVE the world of difference in what you can and cannot see.

The more times I replay the DVR the more times I am convinced in my origonal theory (Disclamer.......that is STILL only a 'Theory')

I also have to keep a open mind that I could be mistaken.

REX
 
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I slomo'd last night while watching it and after the rear of the chassis separates and goes off to the left you can clearly see John's feet sticking out of the whats left of the cockpit. I would expect to see some changes to the design of the foo tbox/leg area of the chassis.

I have never seen a Funny Car separate like that did. Scary stuff.

Get well soon John!!
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From someone at the track, apparently when the car broke in half, his legs were hanging out, that's how his legs got so broken. They picked his boots up off the track.

As bad as this was, it could have been worse.

We know you're a tough old hot rodder John. Hope to see you back in action soon!
 
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