so will NHRA let them go 350mph next year and do the teams really want too??

[T.Smith]

Let’s go ahead and let them get to 350, then let’s slow ‘‘em down so we get all the good stuff back ie long smoky burnouts, fire in the pipes, dry hops, then let’s get Nitro back to 98% so they can start chasing 260 all over again

I suggest you pop in an old Diamond P tape if you want to see any of that.

 

[sfw1960]

Most people probably don’t know that Goodyear calls that tire the Big Mo. Not sure why.

I’ve said it many times on here… Goodyear is not concerned with the speeds. At least since the last time I talked to them.

It's a BIG MOFO??

 

[stitcherbob]

Well, what does Ai have to say about this?

 

[ironpony]

No one at Goodyear is going to publicly say we are worried, I am sure behind closed doors they are not happy about this.
The tire was built to go 340 MPH and has not been redeveloped or changed since. They are playing in the safety margin of the tire right now. Odds are nothing will ever happen but if it does watch out. I have witnessed these tires come apart in testing and it aint pretty.

 

[Ponyhntr]

Ken, in my experience and conversations with the head Goodyear engineer, I don’t believe your statement is correct.

 

[GumbyWVU]

Most people probably don’t know that Goodyear calls that tire the Big Mo. Not sure why.

I’ve said it many times on here… Goodyear is not concerned with the speeds. At least since the last time I talked to them.

LOL probably takes "big mo" to buy them, or they make "big mo" from selling them.

 

[Von Halen]

Most people probably don’t know that Goodyear calls that tire the Big Mo. Not sure why.

I’ve said it many times on here… Goodyear is not concerned with the speeds. At least since the last time I talked to them.

I used to call on the Goodyear Innovation Center. They’ve never been concerned with the speeds. It keeps them busy innovating.

 

[Nunz]

Ken, in my experience and conversations with the head Goodyear engineer, I don’t believe your statement is correct.

I know you've touched on it before, and I know Goodyear's concern is building the best performing, safest tire possible. But, are you sure you can't talk them into bringing back the billows of smoke?

 

[Ponyhntr]

I know you've touched on it before, and I know Goodyear's concern is building the best performing, safest tire possible. But, are you sure you can't talk them into bringing back the billows of smoke?

I tell them that every time I talk to them!

 

[MM]

I know you've touched on it before, and I know Goodyear's concern is building the best performing, safest tire possible. But, are you sure you can't talk them into bringing back the billows of smoke?

As long as they eliminate the shake that comes with them. We had a set of Hoosiers about 10-12 years ago that we got off a retired alcohol racer that smoked just like the old days. Too this day it's the worst shake I've ever experienced. I had a headache for about a week.

Pic so you don't think I am lying:

 

[Gone Dead Train]

As long as they eliminate the shake that comes with them. We had a set of Hoosiers about 10-12 years ago that we got off a retired alcohol racer that smoked just like the old days. Too this day it's the worst shake I've ever experienced. I had a headache for about a week.

Pic so you don't think I am lying:
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"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree"


Thanks Mike for posting the great picture. I could care less about 90% of the crap that is posted on the main page, but this is bitchin!

 

[ch streetcars]

I know you've touched on it before, and I know Goodyear's concern is building the best performing, safest tire possible. But, are you sure you can't talk them into bringing back the billows of smoke?

THAT SMOKING BURNOUT - to most fans is a Hell of a lot more exciting, than any speed over 325mph. IMHO.

 

[T.Smith]

I would much rather see them tweak the current specs on the fuel cars to get less tire smoking runs and more side by side racing like the cars are welded together. We saw both of those at the MI race and it kinda puts the driver ahead of the crew chief in what is winning races.

I don't care what tweeks are made, these cars will always be blownin' the tires off.

 

[aakar]

I LOVE pedalfests, the unearthly sounds they create are music to my ears, same as a Jimmy Page guitar solo

 

[Cliff]

When the old Chi Town made a burn out, it was kinda slow and went waaaaay down the track. Wondered if he used one set of tires per burn out. BTW, anyone remember when Jungle drove the Hustler at OCIR?

 

[twostep]

Ken, in my experience and conversations with the head Goodyear engineer, I don’t believe your statement is correct.

You'd certainly be in a position to know but the first time one of them blows out going through the traps you can bet Goodyear, the racers, their first cousins, their neighbors and their pets will be questioning the tire's stability at 350, especially if someone is injured or killed, even if the blowout had nothing to do with the speed such as trackside debris cutting the tire down.

Stands to reason that if the timing retard is set to start pulling timing at 7900 rpm, taking 20 or so degrees out per second at around 3 seconds in, it would limit the speeds on these cars. Personally I believe that two things have led to 340+ speeds- removal of the mud flaps and the fact that the retards as currently set are only pulling 14 or 15 degrees in the last 0.7 seconds which doesn't seem to be having much affect at all.

So is the answer pulling more timing and earlier in the run? I don't know. Such a move could prove to be hazardous to your 12,000hp nitro Hemi's health. I'd be more inclined to arrest the speeds via a reduction in blower OD ifit becomes necessary. It'd take a new tuning learning curve, possibly some different parts but the teams would adapt fairly quickly. Just keep it around 330, folks, and other than those who judge drag racing strictly on big numbers nobody will care. 350+ could create serious adverse situations other than just tire safety.

 

[ch streetcars]

Just to show a few examples of spectators going wild about burnouts, and tire smoke; 1. the end of a Nascar race ends with the winner spinning donuts- those people go nuts. 2. Goodguy's Car shows have a burnout contest-biggest cheers of the show. Even some of our local car shows have burnout contests. 4. We cruised around and raced in the 70's and 80's , now the kids do smoky donuts and think it's cool. My point is, Drag Racing has become just a driver in a missle, over in seconds. Even a Pro-stock does an awesome burnout, and the Nitro car are the ultimate display of power while doing a smokey burnout. Sure our cars are faster than ever-but so is Bonneville and few go to watch that speed exhibition! NHRA better put the SHOW back in Drag Racing , get spectators , and get sponsors interested again, when a guy like Shawn Reed doesn't plan to keep spending millions out of his pocket-Changes should be made.

 

[sammi]

I'll say it. Goodyear's risk managers pull the plug on fuel tires. Now what.

 

[Ponyhntr]

I'll say it. Goodyear's risk managers pull the plug on fuel tires. Now what.

We are screwed. There are 3 things that are vital to most of drag racing… Insurance, Nitromethane, and Tires.

 

[ironpony]

I'll say it. Goodyear's risk managers pull the plug on fuel tires. Now what.

10.5 drag radials.................