Meeks
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And it sounds just like him to be asking what it will take to be racing in Richmond ...glad to hear hes doing good...
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Did Force and KB Crash?
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And it sounds just like him to be asking what it will take to be racing in Richmond ...glad to hear hes doing good...
DrRocket
Nitro Member
This is great news!! Really good to hear.
I can just see the doc's faces when John asked what it would take to get him back in the saddle for Virginia.
"Um, in a word, NO!!!"
Orthopedic surgeons and rehab people don't mess around much any more these days. No more laying around in bed, waiting for things to knit. They get you up, out of bed and on your feet as soon as they can. Within several days of my brother's hip operation, they were already doing stuff, like range of motion, etc.
I can just see the doc's faces when John asked what it would take to get him back in the saddle for Virginia.
"Um, in a word, NO!!!"
Orthopedic surgeons and rehab people don't mess around much any more these days. No more laying around in bed, waiting for things to knit. They get you up, out of bed and on your feet as soon as they can. Within several days of my brother's hip operation, they were already doing stuff, like range of motion, etc.
Just Paul
Nitro Member
Just thinking.. If Force can stage, and idle down track and get 10 points for making an attempt, and Capps, Scelzi, and Ashley all DNQ, Force could still make the countdown!
Haha!
Never going to happen, but ya never know? right!?
Before I get flamed, I am just messing around.
Haha!
Never going to happen, but ya never know? right!?
Before I get flamed, I am just messing around.
d'kid
Nitro Member
Just thinking.. If Force can stage, and idle down track and get 10 points for making an attempt, and Capps, Scelzi, and Ashley all DNQ, Force could still make the countdown!
Haha!
Never going to happen, but ya never know? right!?
Before I get flamed, I am just messing around.
Paul...
Ain't flaming ya... as if John would 'Just Idle down the Track'... question is, can he get medical clearance? If he's in the car, he'll make that Ol' Houndawg Talk... make the final four, then sit out the last two...
Chili
Nitro Member
I am more concerned about his hand injuries than his leg injuries. I know that Bruce Allen is still having problems from his crash two years ago. It would be amazing if Force could run again in 07, but if they don't find the cause of the accident will any of his team cars run in Virginia?
In a situation that doesn't bring smiles.. I can see John makin' the hound dog sing.
Lee
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Just Paul
Nitro Member
I think what you are seeing is the opening for the burst panel, which was gone at that point--quite possibly the square looking piece under the PN in the ESPN logo top right.
Here are my $.02:
a) I don't think the cubes that Kenny hit damaged force's car, unless and it went under and out the other side extremely quickly, as you can see them go past and hit the guardwall
b) The car split in two while it was still in Force's lane - you can see his legs just hanging out in the air in the super slo-mo; possibly the tire started to shred?
c) The mainstream media keeps saying Bernstein hitting Force's car split it, but it was already split at that point; the driver's compartment was back by the left lane guardwall. What hit Bernstein was the forward front of the car with no driver in it whatsoever.
I'm wondering if all the other safety devices on the chassis didn't cause a weakness in another area of the chassis. It never should have broken like that.
Anyway, just some of my thoughts about that.
a) I don't think the cubes that Kenny hit damaged force's car, unless and it went under and out the other side extremely quickly, as you can see them go past and hit the guardwall
b) The car split in two while it was still in Force's lane - you can see his legs just hanging out in the air in the super slo-mo; possibly the tire started to shred?
c) The mainstream media keeps saying Bernstein hitting Force's car split it, but it was already split at that point; the driver's compartment was back by the left lane guardwall. What hit Bernstein was the forward front of the car with no driver in it whatsoever.
I'm wondering if all the other safety devices on the chassis didn't cause a weakness in another area of the chassis. It never should have broken like that.
Anyway, just some of my thoughts about that.
Eric Gross
Nitro Member
WOW look at his finger its swolen 10 times the normal size . Force is a soldier and will be back im sure before he really should .
Mike Dunn said that the cars are supposed to break, just that way, on impact on the youtube video.
Top Fuel cars are supposed to, and the cockpit area is to stay intact. I can't imagine a Funny Car chassis is supposed to break like that to expose the legs to serious injury.
Jrod
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turbo ken
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With all those sensors and the "black box" that Ford put into all of Force's cars I imagine that there will be a ton of information to go through, and hopefully they will find the cause quick, this kind of stuff can't keep happening too much longer, it's going to be frustating having to wait and see what they come up with.
DCM
Nitro Member
Unless all of the fractures got scraped or rubbed off, the failure sequence can be determined. Fatigue failures, buckling, and tensile fractures all leave distinct signatures on the material. Once the failure sequence is known, then you can start looking at ways to load the chassis to cause such a failure.
I don't really subscribe to the "cars are designed to break" at certain locations. I think the true philosophy is there are certain locations where the car is specifically designed to NOT break, such as the middle of the driver's compartment.
I don't really subscribe to the "cars are designed to break" at certain locations. I think the true philosophy is there are certain locations where the car is specifically designed to NOT break, such as the middle of the driver's compartment.
Von Halen
Nitro Member
On impact with what? That car broke in half with virtually no impact.
I don't believe for a second that that frame is designed to come apart and expose the driver like that. Force is damn lucky he came out of that with as minor of injuries as he did. (if you can call those injuries minor)
