Deuce
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'cmon Mike...didn't you know that John told them to leave the stop on the car? He's a cheater remember. I find it so funny that some people on here just have a hardon for JFR.
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'cmon Mike...didn't you know that John told them to leave the stop on the car? He's a cheater remember. I find it so funny that some people on here just have a hardon for JFR.
TooTall999
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How many drivers take off the throttle stop? Unless I'm missing something, John can't reach the throttle stop..
How many drivers take off the throttle stop? Unless I'm missing something, John can't reach the throttle stop..
I think you are smart enough to figure out the point Mike was trying to make. That team is too good to make a mistake like that at the one time the team car needed the round win.
How many drivers take off the throttle stop? Unless I'm missing something, John can't reach the throttle stop..
Hey David- Ron is reading this and wants to why you are bashing him without even knowing him. I love it when a driver has the balls to call someone out for making silly comments like calling him names like "cry baby". Check out his Twitter account and make sure you read the replies Ron has received. It is hilarious and probably true what others are saying about you.
Patrick - Get whatever dictionary you use when writing your books and look up sarcasm. Also tongue in cheek humor. I was making light of the first post. Geeeesh.
paoldtimer
Nitro Member
Pot meet kettle! It's ok for Don but not ok for Greg Anderson (your previous post about his Qs). You are right that business is business.
In all fairness Greg's was a qualifying technique and I dont really love the idea of trying to do poorly in the hopes of who your first round date will be.
Ok my mistake for not looking at any of the "faces" next to it.
Rajunz
Nitro Member
David, Cappsy said that he wants you to meet him in Vegas..............
I know this is a place where people are free to voice their opinions and discuss controversial topics, but I think it gets carried away at times. Speculating about team orders is always going to be part of these boards, but things like calling Capps a "crybaby" is, IMO, out of line. I like all these guys, it's too bad only one can be champ, but that's what makes it so intense. I've never seen Capps do anything to deserve being called crybaby. He knows to how to handle the butterfly and the loud pedal, and he's as passionate a racer as you'll ever find. But then, so are his teammates. I think these guys have enough stress at this point in time, it doesn't seem cool to me that they have to read s**t like this on message boards. Maybe I'm way off, maybe that's sports, who knows...
Bullard Anderson
Nitro Member
Certain team owners, and driver-team owners who can make business decisions need to understand that ppl paid money for the chance to come see them. To root for them. To visit a hauler and plop down cash for tee shirts. If a driver can't, or isn't allowed to give the fan what he or she is looking for, only the best winning effort possible, then the team owner or team owner/driver should let his fans know ahead of time. So you see they can have the option of staying home, not spending money at the track in support of the NHRA and the member track owner. Not driving to the track on a Sunday morning, or taking off work on a Monday (like today) with the delusional idea the driver/owner of the team will give 100 percent under any circumstance.
There are some fans on the ropes who could care less about "The Multi-Team", or such and such owners "Group of Drivers". They care about their driver. The guys car that's on the front of the tee shirt they paid $30.00 for. And they expect 100 percent out of him, even if he is the owner and the driver. The concept that someone would wake up on Sunday with a car in a 16 car field, profess they love the sport, love the NHRA, love its fans, and then find new and creative ways to throw drag races on the highest level is proposterious to some fans. But it seems new fans are being taught this very scenario each year.
This in part is why heads up racing is so important to me.
Steve Bullard
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There are some fans on the ropes who could care less about "The Multi-Team", or such and such owners "Group of Drivers". They care about their driver. The guys car that's on the front of the tee shirt they paid $30.00 for. And they expect 100 percent out of him, even if he is the owner and the driver. The concept that someone would wake up on Sunday with a car in a 16 car field, profess they love the sport, love the NHRA, love its fans, and then find new and creative ways to throw drag races on the highest level is proposterious to some fans. But it seems new fans are being taught this very scenario each year.
This in part is why heads up racing is so important to me.
Steve Bullard
@bullardanderson
Hey David- Ron's Twitter post also was posted on his Facebook account, it has almost 85 replies. You will love what they are saying. I can't stop laughing. Maybe next time you will think twice before calling people childish names without any substance to back them up. Typically I would delete posts where someone is calling a racer childish names, but since Ron has stood up and called you out on it will stay.
d'kid
Nitro Member
I highly doubt that swap had ANYTHING to do with Capps' fealings.
Back on topic, I wish NHRA would enforce their rules about throwing a race.
Personally, I think they should drop the stupid rule... sacrifice fly to right field... why the heck not?
d'kid
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Nitro Member
Some of you want NHRA to enforce a "throwing the race" rule. Insane.
1. Drag Racing is a business, reguardless of how many fans it may piss off.
2. How?
Let's same someone smokes the tires trying to win, will they then be found gulity by the NHRA that, "that tune up would of never stuck" once they are forced to give all the book to the NHRA approved Master Crew Chief. Please!
No one seems to remember 2 things about Force's most hated dives:
1. 2009 throwing the race for Robert so he could qualify for the countdown. Any logical fan would review that weekend and see that no way in hell did Force even have the car to beat Hight. Every one talks about that being Hight's fake title when in reality 1. He would of won in 2007, but the countdown gave it to Tony (he played by the rules, taking nothin away from him; ironically Tony would of won in 2009 but the countdown gave it to Hight!) 2. Hight would of beat anyone that weekend, go back and look at what his car was doing compared to Force.
2. Today. Same deal. Force can't beat Neff head to head, he would of never won. Logically look at the weekend just convince yourself that Neff already had it in the bag just on consistancy over Force.
1. Drag Racing is a business, reguardless of how many fans it may piss off.
2. How?
Let's same someone smokes the tires trying to win, will they then be found gulity by the NHRA that, "that tune up would of never stuck" once they are forced to give all the book to the NHRA approved Master Crew Chief. Please!
No one seems to remember 2 things about Force's most hated dives:
1. 2009 throwing the race for Robert so he could qualify for the countdown. Any logical fan would review that weekend and see that no way in hell did Force even have the car to beat Hight. Every one talks about that being Hight's fake title when in reality 1. He would of won in 2007, but the countdown gave it to Tony (he played by the rules, taking nothin away from him; ironically Tony would of won in 2009 but the countdown gave it to Hight!) 2. Hight would of beat anyone that weekend, go back and look at what his car was doing compared to Force.
2. Today. Same deal. Force can't beat Neff head to head, he would of never won. Logically look at the weekend just convince yourself that Neff already had it in the bag just on consistancy over Force.
And a job well done, sir!
I prefer heads up racing, but have long said that team orders are team orders. Just don't lie about it, like today. That is total BS. Throttle stop my ass. The only bigger joke of today was the beer garden being closed.
MM
Nitro Member
I think that some of those comments are just as classless as some of the people here are accusing David of being. Ron had every right to respond in the manner he did, since the comments made here were about him. But some of the stuff on this facebook thread are pretty disgusting. Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left, and if we're turning left I am no longer interested.......but I digress.
Very true how the championships would have been reversed. But to turn a complete blind eye is a little to Rose colored glasses of you.
FC138fan
Nitro Member
Holy crap this thread is huge... But mike is right there's a lot of uncalled for stuff going on, how did NASCAR fans get roped into this?
I give Ron props for calling him out, and IMO he gets huge points in my fan book, but probably gonna get a talking to about it.
