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Last I read Darrels wife successfully sued Goodyear, not that means much.
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Last I read Darrels wife successfully sued Goodyear, not that means much.
I thought Eric Melden’s car went into severe tire shake. This was before the form fitting padding was mandated.
His head injury was caused by the tire shake slamming his head back and forth.
Somebody please correct me if I’m wrong, but the padding we see in today’s roll cages was mandated after losing Medlen.
I do recall that as well, though I also recall it was settled out of court. And the terms were kept very quiet by all parties. I still don't think a tire failure directly caused his death.
With Eric, I recall that a tire did come apart, though I don't recall reading exactly how the accident started. The tire came apart in such a way that it caused a severe imbalance as the rubber that was still attached to the wheel continued to spin around, and thus it rattled the chassis like a paint shaker. And yes there was minimal roll cage padding back then. So it wasn't "tire shake" like we normally hear about.
Nitro Bass!
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I doubt 1/4 for nitro will ever come back, but you make an interesting point. "You could mandate that they can’t change that stuff, but then you have to be able to tech it, which becomes increasingly difficult with the limited staff". Isn't that one of the most important reasons why there is a sanctioning body in the first place, to keep a level playing field for everybody? Seems to me if a sanctioning body doesn't have the staff to do tech correctly and police those who bend the rules, then that sounds like the sanctioning body needs to re-evaluate their business model to make sure they have enough of the right people in place to enforce the rules they make. there is no middle ground or grey area there to me.....
Nitro Bass!
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This sport was built on the foundation of the quarter mile. For decades, drag racing was 1,320 feet, plain and simple. But who in the early days of drag racing could have imagined that today’s nitro cars would be approaching half the speed of sound in just 1,000 feet? Nobody back then could have dreamed that was possible.
When you really think about it, NHRA has actually done a solid job over the years managing speed and safety, while still allowing the cars to get incrementally faster. But we’re living in a very different reality now. Several major factors have all converged at the same time, almost like a perfect storm.
We’re dealing with tire failures at ever-increasing speeds, short shutdown areas, rising insurance costs, and the overall cost of racing skyrocketing. Many racers are being pushed out simply because they can no longer afford to compete. Parts attrition is brutal, with teams routinely blowing things up just to stay competitive at the highest level. On top of that, major corporate sponsorships are disappearing. How many Fortune 500 companies are willing to spend millions of dollars for just a few minutes of TV exposure per race, even if their car goes four rounds and wins?
Then there’s the loss of tracks. No tracks means no racing. If the grandstands are half-empty at national events and mostly empty at divisional events, how can we expect tracks to stay in business and operate with limited revenue?
From my perspective as an outsider, all of this has to be considered together if the sport is going to survive and thrive in the future. There are a lot of smart people in this chatroom and a lot of smart people within professional drag racing itself. It’s hard to believe that a reasonable middle ground can’t be found, one that addresses the bigger picture of the sport’s long-term health.
That bigger picture includes the cost of racing, parts attrition, safety, the quality of the racing itself, the fan experience, and the entertainment factor that originally made this sport what it is. It also means increasing the overall value of drag racing in a way that attracts major corporate investment again. It’s not about 1,320 feet anymore, it’s about survival and future growth.
I watch a lot of old NHRA races on TV, and the most striking difference between the Winston-era races and today is the crowd size. In the ’80s and ’90s, tracks were packed to the rafters, grandstands full from the starting line all the way down the strip. Today, many motorsports venues are shutting down sections of grandstands. Pomona shut down the entire west-side grandstands years ago and now uses the space for signage. Those seats used to be full of fans. I actually preferred sitting on the west side.
So the real question is this: how do we make the sport exciting enough again to fill those seats like we once did? The racing itself is as good, if not better than it’s ever been. What’s changed is the overall experience at the track, especially with the nitro cars, and perception of what professional drag racing is.
I truly love this sport, but it feels clear that professional drag racing needs a long-term, big-picture solution, one that ensures it doesn’t just survive, but continues to grow and thrive. Again, I’m just a fan, but maybe it’s time for NHRA to re-invent itself and evolve it's business model. Perhaps that means forming a true advisory board, not just PRO, a true advisory board made up of team owners, drivers, track owners, tire manufacturers, sponsors, and even fans through a serious, in-depth survey that is genuinely taken into account. Fans are the end users and the fans are the ones who buy the tickets and tee-shirts. What fans care about is important. No fans, no professional Drag Racing.
Just a thought from a life long fan who has gone to races all over the country for my almost my entire life. I want to see all sanctioning bodies of professional Drag Racing thrive....
When you really think about it, NHRA has actually done a solid job over the years managing speed and safety, while still allowing the cars to get incrementally faster. But we’re living in a very different reality now. Several major factors have all converged at the same time, almost like a perfect storm.
We’re dealing with tire failures at ever-increasing speeds, short shutdown areas, rising insurance costs, and the overall cost of racing skyrocketing. Many racers are being pushed out simply because they can no longer afford to compete. Parts attrition is brutal, with teams routinely blowing things up just to stay competitive at the highest level. On top of that, major corporate sponsorships are disappearing. How many Fortune 500 companies are willing to spend millions of dollars for just a few minutes of TV exposure per race, even if their car goes four rounds and wins?
Then there’s the loss of tracks. No tracks means no racing. If the grandstands are half-empty at national events and mostly empty at divisional events, how can we expect tracks to stay in business and operate with limited revenue?
From my perspective as an outsider, all of this has to be considered together if the sport is going to survive and thrive in the future. There are a lot of smart people in this chatroom and a lot of smart people within professional drag racing itself. It’s hard to believe that a reasonable middle ground can’t be found, one that addresses the bigger picture of the sport’s long-term health.
That bigger picture includes the cost of racing, parts attrition, safety, the quality of the racing itself, the fan experience, and the entertainment factor that originally made this sport what it is. It also means increasing the overall value of drag racing in a way that attracts major corporate investment again. It’s not about 1,320 feet anymore, it’s about survival and future growth.
I watch a lot of old NHRA races on TV, and the most striking difference between the Winston-era races and today is the crowd size. In the ’80s and ’90s, tracks were packed to the rafters, grandstands full from the starting line all the way down the strip. Today, many motorsports venues are shutting down sections of grandstands. Pomona shut down the entire west-side grandstands years ago and now uses the space for signage. Those seats used to be full of fans. I actually preferred sitting on the west side.
So the real question is this: how do we make the sport exciting enough again to fill those seats like we once did? The racing itself is as good, if not better than it’s ever been. What’s changed is the overall experience at the track, especially with the nitro cars, and perception of what professional drag racing is.
I truly love this sport, but it feels clear that professional drag racing needs a long-term, big-picture solution, one that ensures it doesn’t just survive, but continues to grow and thrive. Again, I’m just a fan, but maybe it’s time for NHRA to re-invent itself and evolve it's business model. Perhaps that means forming a true advisory board, not just PRO, a true advisory board made up of team owners, drivers, track owners, tire manufacturers, sponsors, and even fans through a serious, in-depth survey that is genuinely taken into account. Fans are the end users and the fans are the ones who buy the tickets and tee-shirts. What fans care about is important. No fans, no professional Drag Racing.
Just a thought from a life long fan who has gone to races all over the country for my almost my entire life. I want to see all sanctioning bodies of professional Drag Racing thrive....
They do take tech seriously. That is a major factor when making rules… can they tech it? When nitro teams change pistons and rods after every pass, they would have to be constantly monitored in order to keep everyone in check, which takes much more staff than they currently have which is not feasible.
Nitro Bass!
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I certainly wasn't implying that they don't take tech seriously, I was thinking that maybe they were under staffed to support it. Going back to my circular firing squad remark etc....It sounds like a monster has been created that can't be stopped with today's rule packages, hence my thought on advisory board and re-evaluation of all aspects of the sport from top down or bottom up....
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