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Pontiac is done
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Johnny Mopar
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Right on Bobby! One of my partners in my station used to own a high volume Toyota and Ford store. He told me a couple years ago that the labor costs on a Ford were $1,500 more than a comparable Toyota, built in America by Americans. Can you imagine being at a $1,500 disadvantage before the vehicle ever leaves the factory? It's a miracle the UAW didn't put the Big 3 out of business sooner. Ford's day is coming very soon. Last year they refinanced their assets to develop operating capital...which is what they're working off of right now. When they run out of that borrowed cash they'll be down to a company that's fully leveraged without cash flow to repay their loans. That's a worse position than GM and Chrysler.
"Dr. Dirt"
Nitro Member
Jim, I agree that no bailout monies should have been even offered until a superior business model was in place to insure those funds well invested. As it stands, the UAW has such a stranglehold on them that there is no possible way to get their heads above water again until they have been completely dismissed as the crooks they are. I've seen them strike more times than I can count on all my fingers and toes in my lifetime and every time was to further cripple the future business model of the big three. The UAW will one day be exposed for what they are, crooks who robbed their workers and the companies they worked for to establish their own underworld control. I say kick them to the curb and let their workers see just what they really are.
Super Mod
Nitro Member
DITTO for the politicians as well , Mr. Obama included
Makes sense....Port holes will always be cool.......Indian names are not PC!
Seriously, this IS the end of the world as we know it
I have news for you, the world ended in the early '70s.
mastertone
Nitro Member
What's next...A toyota prostocker
It's bad enough we have Toyota bodies in FC, they move to pro stock and I'm done.
Johnny Mopar
Nitro Member
What's next...A Toyota pro stocker
Blasphemy!!! NHRA will suck up for a few sponsorship dollars and allow Toyota to build a motor that never resembled anything they've ever produced and NHRA will call it 'stock'...Pro Stock.
By the way...the Toyota funny car bodies are a joke. Whoever runs one of those is a total sell out. Those are even worse than Force's "Ford" motors, and that's saying a LOT!
mastertone
Nitro Member
Pontiac actually died in the early 70's as someone said earlier.
Bullet
Nitro Member
You cant be much of a fan if this is all it will take.
People cant see the forest for the trees. A manufacturer getting involved in PS, that is a GOOD thing, even if it is Volkswagen.
club
Nitro Member
I have to agree with Paul on this one.
mastertone
Nitro Member
I haven't cared that much for pro stock since the mid eighties, I don't care much for em now except WJ & KJ.
My say is get rid of pro unstock & have Pro Mods, now that would be cool!
Nick Name
Nitro Member
I agree... Anything that prolongs the PS class is a bummer.
Super Mod
Nitro Member
How do you fiqure that? They made the 400 Pontiac until Feb 1979. That's not counting the 301 Pontiac which I think was made thru 1981
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They are the only reason I attend races anymore. The 1000' deal killed it for me as far as the fuel cars go but I know they had to do something about it. I love P/S and will continue to go as long as WJ/KJ are racin,if they stop,I stop.
Crazy
Nitro Member
Weren't Ford, Chevy, Chrysler and maybe Cadillac, the only ones that had actual "Big blocks"? I think Olds, Buick and Pontiac just kept increasing the cubic inches. Could be wrong.
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Johnny Mopar
Nitro Member
How do you fiqure that? That made the 400 Pontiac until Feb 1979. That's not counting the 301 Pontiac which I think was made thru 1981
Correct Jack!
My new '78 Trans Am had a Pontiac T/A 6.6 with Hurst 4-speed shifter. It ran rings around new Z-28's and new Corvettes. It even out ran my original, unrestored 18,000 mile 70 R/T Charger. That car had a perfect 440 Magnum motor. Pontiacs absolutely ruled the streets in the 70's. The earlier Super Duty 455 Trans Ams were torque monsters and ran even better than the T/A 6.6's. The quickest and fastest American cars in the 70's were...Pontiacs! The only Mopar i've owned that was quicker on the street was a '69 Six-Pack lift off hood Super Bee.
I'm a Mopar man, but the Pontiacs were the ones to watch in the 70's. Just ask Burt Reynolds...
willy
Nitro Member
You could very well be right, Tony.
I know they got up to 455 cubes in '70..but not sure if it fits the definition of big block.
