Can somebody explain this?

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How the hell can you redlight when the stage light is still on?

 

[Mike_in_Toney]

Did he two step it or maybe deep stage too deep? Just a couple ideas.

 

[Dave]

The front wheels jumped up out of the beam and the right front has since landed re-triggering the stage light while the left front is still in mid-air. That's likely the cause of the .880 60 foot time also.

That's my guess anyways! lol.

He was -.004 red in Q2 also. That is likely a quick reacting car, or he really pushes that tree! They always say a near perfect light in a nitro car is a guess though.

 

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The front wheels jumped up out of the beam and the right front has since landed re-triggering the stage light while the left front is still in mid-air. That's likely the cause of the .880 60 foot time also.

That's my guess anyways! lol.

He was -.004 red in Q2 also. That is likely a quick reacting car, or he really pushes that tree! They always say a near perfect light in a nitro car is a guess though.

Doesn't the stage light go out immediately when the red light comes on and stays off until the tree is reset?

On FB Adam Rhoades posted this:
"Even if the wheels pulled straight up... You couldn't red light because of the offset. The car would have to be rolling which would of prevented the red light due to the offset."

and this:

"Ford Andersen" "Any chance it could have lifted the front tires up out of the beams and then set it back down in the "deep stage" position?"
Adam Rhoades: "Can't do it because of the offset. Would of had to yank both out at the leave... But it really can't."

 

[Nobody]

The front wheels jumped up out of the beam and the right front has since landed re-triggering the stage light while the left front is still in mid-air.

..That ^ (didn't see there were 2 threads...)

 

[Just Paul]

There is a red light toggle switch in the tower. Same thing happened to me Sunday. At least that's my story.

 

[ironpony]

the offset would have no bearing on the wheels going straight up, only rollout.
IMO, shallow staged and flickered the bulb once the tree was set
Flickered bulb, mashed go pedal, 12 inches of rollout stage bulb still lit
good theory any way.

 

[unclebob]

I'm going to have to disagree with Adam on this. You have to realize the stage beam is the only one in the system that works bassackwards. All other beams have to be broken, this one stays locked with the wheels keeping the beam from reconnecting, if it connects again before green, it's triggers red.
The car can go forward/backward/ or in this case up, and will connect.
Brent; the picture is a little dark, but you can see both cars have hit the throttle, Doug's left front is up, Troy's car have both up over the 2" high beam, so it's reconnected and has nothing to do with the stagger of the front end.

 

[ironpony]

perhaps the "eye" did not see the break, think back to the US nationals when Steve Johnson won by a bike length and light did not trip. Shortly thereafter they added the ring to the front wheels of the bikes, to create a longer break in the beam.

 

[Just Paul]

perhaps the "eye" did not see the break, think back to the US nationals when Steve Johnson won by a bike length and light did not trip. Shortly thereafter they added the ring to the front wheels of the bikes, to create a longer break in the beam.

Stage beams are basically ground level, the rest of the sensors are not, so this has nothing to do with it.

Once upon a time when this type of thing would happen, I'd say yeah the car jumped out of the beams, then landed, blocked the stage beam and lit it back up.

BUT... I don't know that they can re-light. If you notice, now days the stage lights don't light up when the back tires pass through like they used to, it's blocked out to eliminate that perfect back tire stage after red lighting (LBA) scenario.

 

[my friends call me Zappy]

My guess would be too much stagger. That's the first thing I would check.
How else could ya tyrigger the red while still being in the staged position...???

 

[M Jones]

There is a red light toggle switch in the tower. Same thing happened to me Sunday. At least that's my story.

Not to high jack the thread, back in the early 70's I did get a red light from the tower here in vegas, we were running the tall funny car front runner goodyears, I was staging our altered really shallow, could leave stupid early on the tree, no reaction times back then, both green lights came on and then my side red light came on as I passed the tree, the tower guys said they could tell I was relighting and the tree wasn't catching me so they turned on the red, even the other car wanted to rerun the race but the butt heads in the tower wouldn't admit they were wrong, got a hold of mister parks, he wasn't happy with them