The first appeal by mike strasburg was denied and this is unfair because his case is unlike any of the previous failures that came before him. As I have stated before I do believe he should be penalized for not making it an immediate priority, I just feel that he should not have his season taken away. That alone could cause him to never race again.
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Well It's Seems Like The NHRA Is Getting Rich Denying A Good Racer A Return
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This is a disgrace. The penalty needs to be in line with the offense. It would be different if he never tried to comply by not showing up. This is more severe than failing the test. Should this ever come up again the racer should just split the sample and top it off with water. Of course he/she would fail but then they wouldn't be suspended for a year. Where was NHRA when common sense was passed out? I know it won't happen but all PRO racers need to boycott first round of qualifying or something similar. When will they stop letting BIG BROTHER run over them? They (the pros) fail to realize the NHRA is more dependant on them than they are on NHRA.
Gordon
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1. As long as fans continue to purchase tickets to the national events, NHRA will continue to operate unchecked. I say national events because as a result of the testing ban, Match Racing is officially a thing of the past, so by and large the only place to see fuel cars anymore is a national event - and lets face it, whether you like it or not, they're the money draw. Why would NHRA care about a guy like Mike Strasburg when the mega-teams keep bringing money in via "official sponsor" means? And every time they get a new "official sponsor" they disenfranchise any entity that may in the past have wanted to sponsor a different car to compete against a similar product. (Example: If, let's say Tide comes in as the official sponsor of NHRA and they're all over driver X's car, they get all the benefits of being the official sponsor, in addition to the marketing they get from the deal. So, if driver Y wanted to hire, say, Arm & Hammer, Wisk or some other laundry product - they're at a severe disadvantage because that sponsor will NOT get all the benefits Tide receives. That's the main reason the U.S. Army is the only branch of the military that provides primary sponsorship. The Navy, Air Force & Marines wouldn't get any of the same benefits as the Army does, so what's the point?)
2. As for PRO boycotting a round of qualifying, there's no way on God's green earth that the sponsors will allow such an act. In order for that to change, see #1 above.
I absolutely love seeing racers in all classes stretching performance to the limit, and the thrill of the competition, and the beauty of the race cars, and I could go on and on... but I absolutely abhor the politically driven business side of our great motorsport.
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Please explain how NHRA is getting rich by denying the appeal.
Jeff, racing is very important to Mike Strasburg. It is important enough that he and his family run a Top Fueler on a small budget. It is important enough that he helps other racers. Important enough that he eschews the partying and tends to business.
What concerns me, and many others, is that he has received a penalty that is disproportionate to the "offense." This is an opportunity for the NHRA to achieve a just outcome by considering the effects of its policy and the consequences on the racing environment.
This is Mike's problem, at the moment. It is a long term problem for a membership organization and for us, it's "members."
A penalty this severe should be reserved for serious violations, in my opinion.
It is also important to consider the NHRA's responsibility for the racing environment. Drug and alcohol testing is important. None of us is arguing otherwise.
I hope that the NHRA panel that considers Mike Strasburg's appeal will find a way to send the message that the tests are important, while tailoring a penalty more suited to the facts in this case.
Cheers,
Ed
It cost him 1500 to file the appeal and they denied it
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I hadn't realized that 1500 dollars was considered rich.
As for the appeal denial, that is the chance you take, it is called an appeal, not a reversal.
d'kid
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That's $8.33 an hour, over minimum wage, barely. No, it's not rich, it's the difference in buying groceries for the month in my household, or eating a lot of PBJs...
So, yes, to me, it's a chit load of Money, heck I'm happy when I have a twenty in my pocket
d'kid
They didn't deny the appeal. They denied an outright request from Strasburg's attorney to reverse the ruling. The appeal, and the $1500 fee, were just now filed with the NHRA, who has yet to acknowledge receiving them.
NHRA, of course, won't get rich from the $1500, but it does sound a bit excessive. It'll hurt Mike a lot more than it will help the NHRA. Wasn't it $300 for years and years?
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Karl, I agree it's a tidy sum for the average person but we're discussing it about a person who probably spends much more than that on a single run.
Carl, I was just commenting on the topic title and if they indeed just posted the $1500 then the first denial was not a formal appeal per the rules, probably one reason for the denial, and they did not lose the $1500 and the title of this topic is incorrect.
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The only driver that I know has had enough balls to question big bro was bazemore and capps
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Like John said, the pro's have to wake up to the fact that they (the pro's) are what the fans come to see. The fan doesn't care what is on the flags, NHRA-IHRA-AHRA-?HRA. They just want to see their favorites run.
The pro's could put an end to all these crazy fines, oil down fines, match race bans, ect. in one weekend.
The pro's could put an end to all these crazy fines, oil down fines, match race bans, ect. in one weekend.
That's what Stan Creekmore is calling it in the article's header, an appeal, which it is, just not the official one. It's a call for a dismissal before the official appellate process begins.
Strasburg has to appeal; not to do so is the same as admitting some degree of guilt. But let's be real. NHRA isn't going to reverse one of their own drug testing directives. After he loses his case and his money, he might as well check IHRA's schedule or just concentrate on his tranny business, 'cuz he ain't racin' at an NHRA track for a while.
Gordon
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I agree with the part that says the fan doesn't care what that flag says, like I said in my first post on this subject, most fans want to see the fuel cars - like it or not. And by and large, we don't care where we see them.
But I respectfully disagree wholeheartedly with the last part of this post. And for the record, it has NOTHING to do with the size of the drivers' manhood - It has everyhting to do with satisfying sponsor requirements. Anyone who straps into these race cars, regardless of class, has already proven they have cojones.
Anybody remember when Vandergriff made a 600' squirt during first round of eliminations after the tragic death of Scott Kalitta in Englishtown? Does anybody remember what he said afterward? (Heck, he may have even said it before he even did it) Anyway, I'm paraphrasing because my memory isn't that good, but he said something to the effect that he could do what he did because he didn't have sponsors dictating his every move.
I certainly don't claim to know it all, nor do I have all the answers and/or solutions, but I feel I'm pretty close on this topic. If anyone has information to prove otherwise, I'd be very interested in seeing it.
As for the topic of the thread, I'm not sure $1,500.00 is making NHRA all that much richer financially, but it's definitely making NHRA poorer on the track if Strasburg decides to get out altogether.
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It is incorrect, they didn't lose the $1500 for the appeal because the appeal was not filed until AFTER the preliminary request was denied.
Now I am starting to question the Strasburg's approach, they tried to circumvent the appeal process by having their lawyer send a letter to NHRA to have them reconsider their decision. Most organizations that have a written policy on appeals will normally reject any request when the policy is being circumvented. Duh!
