How soon before you leave, and quit complaining about the format? Soon?
The coutdown is BS (1 Viewer)
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Um the flintstones line was an age joke to Karl
Actually I would prefer the one race deal to the countdown. At least then its known and accepted that its nothing more than a gimmick and there's no pretense on worthy championshipness. The championship would have as much meaning as it does know. of course to win a one race deal everybody would be racing everyone else in contention. Unlike the current countdown format
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Ditto for me!!! I think it sucks that Wilk leads all season and loses in the last two races. Then PS motorcycle ........ NHRA want to decide championships like most parents want to raise kids today. Don't let them fail. The team that wins the most should be champs. If you want to pick a champ in two races stop at Vegas next year.
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Re: The countdown is BS
Wilkerson was THE story in F/C this year. Lower budget team contends for the Championship (should have been Champ), but loses it in the final two races. (The rules were the same for everyone.) That overshadows anything about Cruz being the Champ.
Not the way you want to remember a season.
Wilkerson was THE story in F/C this year. Lower budget team contends for the Championship (should have been Champ), but loses it in the final two races. (The rules were the same for everyone.) That overshadows anything about Cruz being the Champ.
Not the way you want to remember a season.
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Don't plan to leave, don't plan to quit. Just making my comment on the title of this thread.
Don't like it - don't read it.
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Go Zap! C'mon, didn't you know it is not okay to have an opinion and express it too?
Exactly.
You must toe the line and be critical of everything NHRA does.
Look, 154 Pro teams knew EXACTLY what the rules were going into the winters, and they still entered events.
Something must be working. It is far more pros than entered IHRA events this year.
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LMAO! And no doubt all 154 approved of it, huh?
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OK, now most everybody can agree the countdown sucks. Why we seem to be stuck with it forever is crazy, but not up to us. However I do have a simple question that I think no matter how many times someone "CLAIMS" all the drivers and owner's love it, just plain isn't true.
If you had a race team, any class, but a real full time race operation. Here are your choices:
#1 is a race series that has 24-events, TV, and a year long points champion. If you win the most points, go the most rounds all season long you are the champion in your class.
#2 is the exact same 24 events, same towns, same TV package, and is the same in every way as series #1 except that 3/4 of the way through the year, the points are reset and now you have to win only at the end instead of all year.
Which series would you enter? Ask yourself, are you here for the car show and just to say you have a race team? Or are you here to line your hero driver and crewchief up against the other teams and see who is the baddest guy on the planet when the race is over.
Anybody who can answer that question honestly will see why the countdown is an idea that doesn't work and why it doesn't. JMO
It doesn't work for the dedicated fans, because we know it is a contrived system, not a true year long champion. It doesn't work with the casual fan, because they don't care who is the champion, they are only there for the days racing. What happened last week, or happens next week doesn't matter to them. It hasn't caught the medias attention for whatever reason. So what is the point to having it stay this way. I don't have any idea.
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If you had a race team, any class, but a real full time race operation. Here are your choices:
#1 is a race series that has 24-events, TV, and a year long points champion. If you win the most points, go the most rounds all season long you are the champion in your class.
#2 is the exact same 24 events, same towns, same TV package, and is the same in every way as series #1 except that 3/4 of the way through the year, the points are reset and now you have to win only at the end instead of all year.
Which series would you enter? Ask yourself, are you here for the car show and just to say you have a race team? Or are you here to line your hero driver and crewchief up against the other teams and see who is the baddest guy on the planet when the race is over.
Anybody who can answer that question honestly will see why the countdown is an idea that doesn't work and why it doesn't. JMO
It doesn't work for the dedicated fans, because we know it is a contrived system, not a true year long champion. It doesn't work with the casual fan, because they don't care who is the champion, they are only there for the days racing. What happened last week, or happens next week doesn't matter to them. It hasn't caught the medias attention for whatever reason. So what is the point to having it stay this way. I don't have any idea.
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I was sent an email survey from NHRA that I was very excited to fill out. The opening of the email stated that they had a new marketing team and were wanting opinions from NHRA fans (that isn't verbatim, but close enough). I clicked on to do the survey, and the first question was to state my age. I clicked the appropriate box and hit enter or submit or whatever it was. The next page appeared and said they had enough response from my age bracket and didn't let me go any farther. Did anyone else get this and what were the rest of the questions? If this is their way of getting fan opinions, I can only hope it will give positive results for the future of the sport. I am guessing they know there are disgruntled customers and are at least making an effort to try to resolve some issues. Unfortunately for me, I have no idea what the rest of the survey asked. This may be a thread hi-jack, but I think this discussion is part of what they may actually want to improve upon. Who knows.
Did anyone get to fill out the entire survey?
Did anyone get to fill out the entire survey?
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It doesn't work for the dedicated fans, because we know it is a contrived system, not a true year long champion. It doesn't work with the casual fan, because they don't care who is the champion, they are only there for the days racing. What happened last week, or happens next week doesn't matter to them. It hasn't caught the medias attention for whatever reason. So what is the point to having it stay this way. I don't have any idea.
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Well put Rapid.
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Well put Rapid.
They entered races, right?
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So you only things you agree with 100%. Don't forget for the people doing this it is thier job. I can think of days I've gone to work not agreeing with what was going on. But with bills to pay you keep going, hoping to make changes for the better.
OK, I'm dumber than a NASCAR fan, but there's one thing I do know: Nitromater is a discussion board. I'll give you a hint, Shane - that means people offer their opinions which may or may not agree with yours.
You're not even being creative with your "love ir or leave it" stuff. It was a lame way of dodging thoughtful discussion back in the sixties and isn't any more effective now.
I'm aware that you've crewed on some PSB teams. Perhaps you should stay with that instead of embarrassing yourself by letting thousands of people reflect on your grade-school levels of logic.
Since I'm wondering if you understood a single paragraph above, let me offer something you should be able to grasp - in the "nyah nyah" style you seem to be accustomed to:
Instead of the huge cost and effort to set up a new racing series, why not put your money where your mouth is and start www.complimentnhra.com?
Sincerely,
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Hmmm for some reason they don't send me those
You might be on to something because they sent it to me.
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You said it, not me!
At the end of the day, the NHRA could care less what PJ and the other bashers think about the system since they are a very small percentage of the total fan base of the NHRA. I have never in my life seen a bunch of grown ups complain to this extent about something they have no control over. I can see the reason for complaining if it would result in something, but it will NOT change one thing.
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I got one. It must be a gag of some type. Any age group you click on gets you that same message. Kind of funny actually.
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The funny thing is until the countdown some here considered me an nhra butt kisser, for standing up for them on some of the calls they were making then
You said it, not me!
Would you ever stand up for anything or just assume you have no control or right to even try? Under your guidelines we'd all be speaking with funny british accents, having high tea and bowing to the queen, afterall the colonist really had no power to change anything......
ok relax I realize someone out there is gonna get thier panties is a wad thinking I'm comparing the countdown to the American Revolution. Think broader though, its pointing to the concept of the arguement, don't fight what someone else might think you have no control over. I know Paul can handle that....not sure about some others
