So what's the shutdown area look like now

[turbo ken]

I understand where your comming form Doug (no disrespect taken), but remember KJ hit the standing water backwards with the ass end of the car coming down, those big slicks are going glide across water (they will also glide accross that "sand" too if a car goes into it backwards, the slicks also make nice high floatation tire, just like the high floatation tires that are used in farming, and construction). Alot more often than not the car will go in front first, the narrow front tires will go into the water thus allowing the front spoiler, or wing to catch the water thus causing less damage the a vehicle, if Alexis car would have went into a water pit her car would have some body damage, and more than likely little to no chassis damage. I think that Alexis would have gotten hurt if her chassis didn't bend like it did when she hit those barrels with sand in them, her chassis saved her not the barrels of sand. After seeing her crash I was surprised (but very happy) to see she walked away from it, it was a nasty crash.

 

[ctjstr]

That one was WAY gnarly- I'm glad to see that the new system seemed to do a great job of containing a car that easily seemed to hit the sand at 125+... But at that speed, aren't most cars going to skip/ "hydroplane"/ skim over the pit and head straight into the nets? Would that damage have been less severe had the car had something other than the barrels as the final catch?- not to imply that this system isn't a great improvement in short-track containment- it truly is. Gotta say Thank God for HANS/Hutchens devices in this situation- the stop looked like it was immediate.

I'm not sure about cars, but I hit the sand at over 100 on a nitro harley and never even left a tire print in it. I'm guessing it would be about the same.

 

[T.Smith]

Good grief....a water pit?....can we get some sharks and piranhas in it too?

 

[Tim5636sc]

Good grief....a water pit?....can we some sharks and piranhas in it too?

cool...then during downtime they can hire the 'FONZ' to jump it...better than team Geico...(AAAAEEEY)

 

[Toejam]

I was there, and Alexis was along for the ride,the rear end broke at the finish line and the shrapnel exiting the lower rear of the housing tore one side of the chute attachment bracket off and cut the chute shrouds like a pair of scissors, not sure how much brake she had as there was a lot of gear oil all over the rear of the car. I helped take the chassis off the ramp truck and saw the chutes and rear end up close so this is first hand info.
Nothstein's episode was a chute deployment problem, getting sucked under the car and wrapped around the rear end, he did a good job sliding the car sideways through the gravel and into the first net, apparently saving it from any significant chassis damage.
This new system really did do it's job, both drivers are OK which is what matters most, cars can be replaced!

Wow Doug I did Not hear that! I only caught the part of her getting interviewed, but didn't see the run. There was a lot of speculation as to why she wasn't on the Brakes Harder! Guess that answers a lot!

 

[yoda]

I understand where your comming form Doug (no disrespect taken), but remember KJ hit the standing water backwards with the ass end of the car coming down, those big slicks are going glide across water (they will also glide accross that "sand" too if a car goes into it backwards, the slicks also make nice high floatation tire, just like the high floatation tires that are used in farming, and construction). Alot more often than not the car will go in front first, the narrow front tires will go into the water thus allowing the front spoiler, or wing to catch the water thus causing less damage the a vehicle, if Alexis car would have went into a water pit her car would have some body damage, and more than likely little to no chassis damage. I think that Alexis would have gotten hurt if her chassis didn't bend like it did when she hit those barrels with sand in them, her chassis saved her not the barrels of sand. After seeing her crash I was surprised (but very happy) to see she walked away from it, it was a nasty crash.

Jell-O maybe??

Water pit would be less friction Kenneth- cars could potentially PICK UP speed heading into the net- not good...

The pea gravel/ multi net thing is the most reasonable way to catch a fast moving object- truck run-offs are proof of that. My only thought would be a slight incline of gravel for the cars to dig into, but even then, once the front digs, the back end gets a mind of its own, ala Mr. Force's (and many others) dip-and-flip move...

 

[Paul]

Here are some pictures I took of her car. This was scary indeed.

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Paul Miller's Photos | Facebook

Paul Miller's Photos | Facebook

 

[NYNitro86]

cool...then during downtime they can hire the 'FONZ' to jump it...better than team Geico...(AAAAEEEY)

OUCH! Where the heat come from on Team Geico???

 

[Tim5636sc]

OUCH! Where the heat come from on Team Geico???

you know Rob. The annoying people at the track who give away free stuff...they are called team geico right? Or did they change sponsors?

...nothing against Morgan or Karen. They are cool kids.

 

[none]

ESPN has footage of both incidents

Racing Schedule, News, Results, and Drivers - Motorsports - ESPN

 

["Chuck"]

you know Rob. The annoying people at the track who give away free stuff...they are called team geico right? Or did they change sponsors?

...nothing against Morgan or Karen. They are cool kids.

cant stand those guys. Or the announcers who scream at the top of their lungs when they shoot those stupid t shirts out of those glorified potato guns

 

[Tim5636sc]

cant stand those guys. Or the announcers who scream at the top of their lungs when they shoot those stupid t shirts out of those glorified potato guns

see. Fonzie 'jumping the shark' would be entertaining compared to those guys huh?

 

[Gregg Pickens]

It looked like both cars actually went under the first rope barrier and got caught in the second one. Maybe the first barrier needs to be buried into the gravel to keep that from happening.

 

[see h 3 N 0 TOO]

It looked like both cars actually went under the first rope barrier and got caught in the second one. Maybe the first barrier needs to be buried into the gravel to keep that from happening.

Thats the same thing i was thinking

 

[turbo ken]

Jell-O maybe??

Water pit would be less friction Kenneth- cars could potentially PICK UP speed heading into the net- not good...

Water offers more resistance, after a good rain find yourself a big water puddle in a parking lot somewhere and drive your car through it, it will feel like you got on the brakes.

 

[Toejam]

ESPN has footage of both incidents

Racing Schedule, News, Results, and Drivers - Motorsports - ESPN

Wow, didn't look like the Pea gravel(?) did a thing to reduce speeds! I don't think Alexis would be around had this been last year!

 

[see h 3 N 0 TOO]

Water offers more resistance, after a good rain find yourself a big water puddle in a parking lot somewhere and drive your car through it, it will feel like you got on the brakes.

Just like when we were kids, Skippin rocks off the sand they went way farther then on the water

 

[turbo ken]

Just like when we were kids, Skippin rocks off the sand they went way farther then on the water

Well the cars are going thru the "sand traps" like there on asphalt.

 

[Bullet]

Well the cars are going thru the "sand traps" like there on asphalt.

You would want to have a raised "pool" that the car drove into, not onto.

I think with a little tweaking that the sand should be adequate. I understand that time is of the essence as we have two very lucky racecar drivers that will again get tto go down the racetrack, one of them VERY lucky.

 

[turbo ken]

You would want to have a raised "pool" that the car drove into, not onto.

lucky.

It would be dug down so that the water level would be even with the track surfice, the entrance would slope down to the desired depth, on another note Paul you are correct about lucky.

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