insight into the nitro situation (1 Viewer)

[Nick Name]

Just speculation:

Suppose you were representing an American manufacturer of nitro and together you became the official supplier of fuel to a sanctioning body by paying a "fee" for each barrel sold. To keep some happy, you hire your previous competitor who brings his Chinese brand of nitro with him. After a short time you notice you make a bigger profit with the Chinese brand and start pushing it over your American brand. As the American brand supplier what would you do?

Over time you get greedy or through mismanagement, you keep raising the price to your consumers and they find other sources. In the meantime, you are falling behind in payment to your Chinese supplier and the amount in arrears is approaching a cool million. As your Chinese supplier, what are your options? Especially when there are at least three other importers of nitro that will buy your product and pay their invoices on time. And these importers have viewed large wharehouses filled with drums of nitro ready to ship.

It seems there is only a shortage of nitro with one company, and that company created their situation. It will affect the sanctioning body, but they have talked to other suppliers that can pay their "fee" and still sell a 52 gallon drum of 100% nitro for $900.00 and make a profit. Others refuse to pay the "fee" and want open and fair competition among suppliers, which should be the American way.

Again, this is all just speculation on my part. Any similarities to real situations or actual people is just a coincidence and should not be taken as fact.

Virgil;
Always enjoy reading your post. You are not on these boards nearly enough these days.

Jay

 

[Jer]

Why cant we have enough nitro for all of us hehe

 

[.]

OK, here is the solution; Mr. Gray should immediately be given a management position within NHRA, then Schumaker should be allowed to sell nitro.

All problems solved.

Jay

He'd make a great fit with the other mismanagers already in control of NHRA, that's for sure.

And I sure hope Don is able to sell his nitro, it's obvious he knows what the hell is going on and how to run a business or two.

 

[TR]

He'd make a great fit with the other mismanagers already in control of NHRA, that's for sure.

And I sure hope Don is able to sell his nitro, it's obvious he knows what the hell is going on and how to run a business or two.

AMEN TO THAT. Mismanagers is an understatement. What the heck is going on with the management at NHRA?

 

[Jer]

AMEN TO THAT. Mismanagers is an understatement. What the heck is going on with the management at NHRA?

NHRA News: NHRA seeks Vice President Of Technical Operations (5/21/2008)

 

[Lori]

NHRA News: NHRA seeks Vice President Of Technical Operations (5/21/2008)

I just read that as well. Anyone know who currently holds this position and why he/she is being replaced--moving on--or possibly terminated?

 

[Nick Name]

NHRA News: NHRA seeks Vice President Of Technical Operations (5/21/2008)

There you go!!! It is all coming together now

 

[Don-mon]

Its my understanding that VPs contract is valid until 2009 and then they have first right to re-new.

Wasn't Sunoco Official Supplier for awhile? Why weren't they allowed to bid for a renewal?

I'm waiting for Q16 or something to be mandated for the super classes in order to provide a more level playing field.

 

[Don-mon]

Yes I am speaking of the monies paid NHRA to be the official fuel (im not even going to guess at that amount).
Lets use a baseball analogy, (you go to your favorite ball park you buy -lets say a Bud, Budwieser paid to be the official beer of XYZ ballpark, I can buy a beer a lot cheaper across the street from the park but since its at the park and they are the official beer of the park then I pay the $8 for a Bud). Its the way the park earns money to keep it my favorite ballpark, and Bud charges me more to pay for the $ given to the park. I wish I could pay $1 for my beer at the ballpark, but I understand why they charge $8 and pay.
Dont get me wrong I am not a big VP fan and I have plenty to say about the NHRA, but I am also a drag racing fan - and I want my sport to thrive.

Recoup what extra cost the others produce the same product but sell it for less!
Maybe recouping the cost of being the official fuel, the money they pay NHRA to hold that title, is that what you are talking about?
Competition breeds fair pricing monopolies are never a good thing.

 

[clwill]

NHRA News: NHRA seeks Vice President Of Technical Operations (5/21/2008)

Wasn't this also posted a month or so ago? Must be having trouble getting any takers...

 

[Nitrohaulic]

That Mr. Gray has some curious and interesting negotiating tactics! Looks like he went straight from knee pads to bus underthrowing. "You're the man"? What college business course do they teach that one in?

Why would one BUSINESS act like another BUSINESS is somehow obligated to help them? If you manage to be the exclusive fuel supplier for NHRA, whose responsibility is it to make sure you have the fuel to meet your obligations? Someone else's? Maybe VP should have been the ones to put 300 drums back in reserve.

 

[d'kid]

That Mr. Gray has some curious and interesting negotiating tactics! Looks like he went straight from knee pads to bus underthrowing. "You're the man"? What college business course do they teach that one in?

Why would one BUSINESS act like another BUSINESS is somehow obligated to help them? If you manage to be the exclusive fuel supplier for NHRA, whose responsibility is it to make sure you have the fuel to meet your obligations? Someone else's? Maybe VP should have been the ones to put 300 drums back in reserve.

Nitrohaulic....

you're making too much dang sense... cut that out.

Dudes one eighty out, the Don isn't the one 'Truckin' over Drag Racing... VP is and this farce sits directly in Mister Gray's lap.

Oh yeah, Mr. Clark... I will NOT buy an eight dollar beer at the ballpark, and I will Not buy an eight dollar beer at the drag strip... and for what it's worth, being the Official anything of a sport means nothing to me... either you make a good product at a fair price or you don't. RED BULL could dump a Hundred Mill a year into the NHRA and I still won't buy it, can't get pass the SMELL.

d'kid

 

[Don-mon]

Karl, if your ever in Sonoma, Vegas or Pamona I will buy you that $8 beer!


Oh yeah, Mr. Clark... I will NOT buy an eight dollar beer at the ballpark, and I will Not buy an eight dollar beer at the drag strip... and for what it's worth, being the Official anything of a sport means nothing to me... either you make a good product at a fair price or you don't. RED BULL could dump a Hundred Mill a year into the NHRA and I still won't buy it, can't get pass the SMELL.

d'kid[/QUOTE]

 

[d'kid]

Thanks for the offer Don... might take you up on it if I every get back out to the 'Left' coast...

Surprisingly, I've never had a beer at the track before the "toys" have been put away and the 'Fans' have gone home.

d'kid
now bourbon is a whole 'nuther story

 

[Nitrohaulic]

Nitrohaulic....

you're making too much dang sense... cut that out.

Dudes one eighty out, the Don isn't the one 'Truckin' over Drag Racing... VP is and this farce sits directly in Mister Gray's lap.

Oh yeah, Mr. Clark... I will NOT buy an eight dollar beer at the ballpark, and I will Not buy an eight dollar beer at the drag strip... and for what it's worth, being the Official anything of a sport means nothing to me... either you make a good product at a fair price or you don't. RED BULL could dump a Hundred Mill a year into the NHRA and I still won't buy it, can't get pass the SMELL.

d'kid

I just hope the pro teams take a lesson from this and be sure to include "Oh, by the way, You Da Man!" in all their future proposals!

 

[mike cummings]

That Mr. Gray has some curious and interesting negotiating tactics! Looks like he went straight from knee pads to bus underthrowing. "You're the man"? What college business course do they teach that one in?

I picked up on that too. Not a very professional way for one businessman to correspond with another businessman.

 

[Nitrohaulic]

I picked up on that too. Not a very professional way for one businessman to correspond with another businessman.

How would anyone NOT pick up on that one? An "obnoxious" nerve practically jumped out of my skin when I saw it.

If your business had something another business wanted and, included in the request was "You're the man"? Pretty frickin strange if you ask me. It should surprise anyone that the same person would then turn around and publicly announce what Don's intentions are when he does something?

This is the kind of people working in the company that NHRA sold it's exclusive fuel rights/business to?

 

[Smiley]

Wasn't Sunoco Official Supplier for awhile? Why weren't they allowed to bid for a renewal?

I'm waiting for Q16 or something to be mandated for the super classes in order to provide a more level playing field.

If memory serves me correctly I don't believe Sunoco ever had a chance as the "Official Supplier", it was handed to VP.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[.]

That Mr. Gray has some curious and interesting negotiating tactics! Looks like he went straight from knee pads to bus underthrowing. "You're the man"? What college business course do they teach that one in?

Beats the heck out of me. I know for a fact that my 23 year old neice could write a much better letter than that without even trying. She's attending U of Iowa and soon to graduate with a major in International Business. Maybe I should tell her to send her resume to VP.

If memory serves me correctly I don't believe Sunoco ever had a chance as the "Office Supplier", it was handed to VP.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

You're exactly right. Sunoco never had a chance to bid when their contract was up, NHRA simply handed it to VP.

 

[FABMAN]

Yes I am speaking of the monies paid NHRA to be the official fuel (im not even going to guess at that amount).
Lets use a baseball analogy, (you go to your favorite ball park you buy -lets say a Bud, Budwieser paid to be the official beer of XYZ ballpark, I can buy a beer a lot cheaper across the street from the park but since its at the park and they are the official beer of the park then I pay the $8 for a Bud). Its the way the park earns money to keep it my favorite ballpark, and Bud charges me more to pay for the $ given to the park. I wish I could pay $1 for my beer at the ballpark, but I understand why they charge $8 and pay.
Dont get me wrong I am not a big VP fan and I have plenty to say about the NHRA, but I am also a drag racing fan - and I want my sport to thrive.

I mentioned this in earlier post, Gray is smooching hiney cause if he can't supply enough fuel for this year he will be paying T.C. & G.L. lots of money and probably loose fuel deal.