well then don't look at my opinion as a "pissing contest." If you can tell him at the shop why even bother on mater!
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well then don't look at my opinion as a "pissing contest." If you can tell him at the shop why even bother on mater!
T.Smith
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5 years ago I would've typed a long response to your post, but I no longer have the energy, patience or the time to do so. However I will say I find your post to be naive and selfish.
BF
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How is it naive and selfish? If they don't eventually slow the cars down, we'll be left with 1/8 mile racing. Good luck trying to sell tickets to that. It's amazing how many people think the speeds are safe now like they'll never change. The crew chiefs are pretty smart guys, in case you haven't noticed. They will ALWAYS find a way to go quicker and faster. There is no infinite speed limit even at 1000'.
T.Smith
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No **** Dick Tracy.
Huge
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Dude you and I are not on the same page at all. I will try to explain it one more time. I was not talking about your opinion. I was talking about the "SUBJECT". Because I new that once it started that it would turn in to a pissing contest. And it looks like I was right. As far as who, and where I congratulate someone, is my business, and not yours. If you still feel the need to discuss this with me more, then you are more then welome to PM me, but I'm done discussing this on this thread, because this thread is about Dels run, not about your crusade for 1320 .
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Dragracer
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I think it is time to put the 1000ft/1320ft controversy away. No matter what opinion anyone has it's only going to change if the NHRA god's want to change it.
This blog is about Del. The Al-Anabi folks did a fantastic job with both cars and Dels' just went a little quicker than Larrys' did. I think they both prove that when Alan Johnson really needs to pour the coals to it he is the best. I figured it would take awhile for Tony Schumacher to fall out of the top and didn't think he would stay on top as long as he did after Alan left but it looks like he has, and he also doesn't have any luck at all. I do have to admit that the tuners on the other 2 Schumacher cars have done a fantastic job the second half of the season but if I still wouldn't rule Del out. He's a great driver driving the quickest car on the planet.
Another thing to keep in mind is it takes 3 things to win a race: 1-a great car, 2-a great driver, 3-luck. Al-Anabi seems to have the first 2 things well taken care of and most of the time the 3rd. Just a little more of #3 and we will see Del with the Championship.
Just a minor addition. Still can't figure out John Force. He qualifies with a 4.01 and then goes out in the 1st round 'AGAIN'. I don't know what his 1st round jinx is but if I were him I would be getting real upset with the crew when I own 3 of the quickest F/C's and the other 2 have done better than mine all year.
This blog is about Del. The Al-Anabi folks did a fantastic job with both cars and Dels' just went a little quicker than Larrys' did. I think they both prove that when Alan Johnson really needs to pour the coals to it he is the best. I figured it would take awhile for Tony Schumacher to fall out of the top and didn't think he would stay on top as long as he did after Alan left but it looks like he has, and he also doesn't have any luck at all. I do have to admit that the tuners on the other 2 Schumacher cars have done a fantastic job the second half of the season but if I still wouldn't rule Del out. He's a great driver driving the quickest car on the planet.
Another thing to keep in mind is it takes 3 things to win a race: 1-a great car, 2-a great driver, 3-luck. Al-Anabi seems to have the first 2 things well taken care of and most of the time the 3rd. Just a little more of #3 and we will see Del with the Championship.
Just a minor addition. Still can't figure out John Force. He qualifies with a 4.01 and then goes out in the 1st round 'AGAIN'. I don't know what his 1st round jinx is but if I were him I would be getting real upset with the crew when I own 3 of the quickest F/C's and the other 2 have done better than mine all year.
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mike
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Dude you and I are not on the same page at all. I will try to explain it one more time. I was not talking about your opinion. I was talking about the "SUBJECT". Because I new that once it started that it would turn in to a pissing contest. And it looks like I was right. As far as who, and where I congratulate someone, is my business, and not yours. If you still feel the need to discuss this with me more, then you are more then welome to PM me, but I'm done discussing this on this thread, because this thread is about Dels run, not about your crusade for 1320 .
Alright i took it the wrong way sorry. There's so much that can be taken the wrong way. To Tony: on what grounds?
Dragracer
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If you don't believe that 1000' is safer than 1320' you either don't now or never have run a dragster or f/c or are in some other universe. Most of the tracks today were built in the 60's when cars were going 190's and are too short for even a 300mph run.
The extra 320' that running 1000' gives the cars extra room to stop that makes a tremendous difference.
At 1320' the speeds were not a lot faster than at 1000' today but look at how many cars went into the sand or safety net or made the turn at the end of the strip at a unsafe speed. Today they have to push more cars off the strip because they can stop.
If you don't think it is safer at 1000' you are nuts. I raced in fuel classes from 1960, have lost a lot of good friends, and if you take a poll of the nitro drivers today I guantee that by a large majority they would agree they would like 1320' but 1000' is safer because so many tracks don't have any way to lengthen the shut off area. Talk to people like Force, Jim Head, Allan Johnson (t/f), Cruz and ask them if they are willing to run 1320' even if they slow the cars down and they will tell you no because the older tracks can't handle high 200 or low 300mph speeds. Don't ask Gary Selzi because he will probably take your head off if mention going back to 1320'.
And don't make safety seem like it's a minor concern. You wouldn't think that way if you had lost as many friends as I have over the last 50 years as because of safety rules not being as stringent as they could have been.
The extra 320' that running 1000' gives the cars extra room to stop that makes a tremendous difference.
At 1320' the speeds were not a lot faster than at 1000' today but look at how many cars went into the sand or safety net or made the turn at the end of the strip at a unsafe speed. Today they have to push more cars off the strip because they can stop.
If you don't think it is safer at 1000' you are nuts. I raced in fuel classes from 1960, have lost a lot of good friends, and if you take a poll of the nitro drivers today I guantee that by a large majority they would agree they would like 1320' but 1000' is safer because so many tracks don't have any way to lengthen the shut off area. Talk to people like Force, Jim Head, Allan Johnson (t/f), Cruz and ask them if they are willing to run 1320' even if they slow the cars down and they will tell you no because the older tracks can't handle high 200 or low 300mph speeds. Don't ask Gary Selzi because he will probably take your head off if mention going back to 1320'.
And don't make safety seem like it's a minor concern. You wouldn't think that way if you had lost as many friends as I have over the last 50 years as because of safety rules not being as stringent as they could have been.
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Watchman
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Larry has told me himself that he has had a new car this year and it is better than last years car. I have teased him because the "old car" has done so well but he insists that this one is better.
That whatever changes that were made have improved this car over last year's car.
It still comes down to each race and the decisions made at that moment.
Most rounds this year Larry has gone down track first and Del's car could have made adjustments. That may be the most simple reason why he has done slightly better.
mike
mike
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Amen! and Amen on both points Terry!! Patrick lives in his own world. A selfish one, along with every other person wanting a return to 1320. Funnily enough these people don't have ANY MONEY invested in the sport.
Amen! and Amen on both points Terry!! Patrick lives in his own world. A selfish one, along with every other person wanting a return to 1320. Funnily enough these people don't have ANY MONEY invested in the sport.
Oh no! Pal you don't know me from a whole in the wall. I got money in this sport. How can you make such a jackass insult to me and call me selfish for expressing my opinion. It's an opinion, go to college or whatever jackass institution gave your high school education and try taking manners 101 and how to disagree 101 without insulting people. Geez, I notice any post you dont agree with from somebody you always turn in to a prick and a wiseass, you always fly off the handle easy or attack right away. Chill the hell out dude. Have a fosters.
It is sick and twisted that I and anyone that supports 1320 are deemed "selfish" by you. How can you sleep with that? It's wrong, that's not disagreement; it's flat out attack on public opinion.
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I wonder just how low they can go...If the weather is right and the track is right does anyone think that AJ and Del has a 3.69 for Pomona?
Absolutely. Who really knows if the car had room left in the tune up or if it was on the edge of just making it. Now that they have the data they can absolutely learn from it 100%. Just like Tommy Delago, I would think just having the data on the 3.99 only means it can be perfected when the next chance for a number like that happens. I think for any crew chief, just knowing that you made a number like that happen only means that you can now start searching on what can be better no matter if it's a crew chief that tuned a 3.73 or one that just broke into the 3.7's for the first time.
I know during Hagen's run of 3.99 it dropped a cylinder at 660. Now I bet Tommy knows, but we do not. If the car did not drop a cylinder would it of ran a 3.98 or would the run never of happend if the car did not drop a cylinder, meaning if the horsepower did not reduce at 660 would it of hooked. I remember AA Dale saying in 98 with Dixon when they broke the 4.4 barrier that if the car never had a wheelie bar, it would of never broke into the 4.40's.
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indidad- The Guy- Uncle Steve
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I wonder just how low they can go...If the weather is right and the track is right does anyone think that AJ and Del has a 3.69 for Pomona?
I think it could happen even before Pomona. I know this thread originated for Del's E.T., but I think Lair might just see the sixes first.
Don't ask Gary Selzi because he will probably take your head off if mention going back to 1320'.
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I used to know Scelzi personally, he would never take my head off
indidad- The Guy- Uncle Steve
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THAT was funny.
indidad- The Guy- Uncle Steve
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Barry. Click the link under Tony's name. Then click on team. Then come back and see how silly this statement looks.
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Barry. Click the link under Tony's name. Then click on team. Then come back and see how silly this question looks.
Being a clutch guy on a TF team gives him no right to dismiss my opinion. My opinion is not SILLY, wise one, it's and opinion. I don't care if he says, "well you dont work on it, you have no insight to what it is behind the scenes." and I will say, "I will find a clutch guy on a team that wants 1320 back. This is no pissing contest, it's an opinion, I don't care who you are or what it is you do, respect it.
indidad- The Guy- Uncle Steve
Nitro Member
Surely, your name is not Barry. However, I see you can piss the farthest, strongest, longest, etc.
I was saying the quoted statement by Barry looked silly, with a wink, so get off the defensive there big pisser.
And yes, I will stop calling you Shirley.
