Ashley Sunday

[Paul]

As does many others, Jenn!!!!!!! Ever think maybe your reading too much into my statements?

Maybe it is you, and not others, reading too much into your statements? I have heard that from you on more than one occasion. Take your fan hat off and read these posts from a practical point of view and respond accordingly/intelligently and you might come off looking better.

 

[Kelly]

Lynn.....take heed, just support and don't argue. It's a fine line!

 

[Snake33]

It's past halfway in the season and the pesky Tony Pedregon has the points lead. This is NOT good for the other funny car teams. Capps and Ashley better figure out how to beat this guy, or there will be a Pedregon at the podium in November for the third staight year. Wilk knows how to beat him.

Is a Pedregon at the podium in November a bad thing? How many times in a row has Force been up there? Just askin'

 

[PJ]

Is a Pedregon at the podium in November a bad thing? How many times in a row has Force been up there? Just askin'

it depends on if they actually win the title or if its a countdown gift yet again

 

[force fan]

Lynn.....take heed, just support and don't argue. It's a fine line!

Thanks, Kelly!!! I understand what you are sayin', and what others are sayin', too. I just have to sit back and take the bashin' on Force because I need to worry about what someone might think if I try to defend him? But you are right, Kelly, I do need to just let it go at this point. Trust me,I didn't just join this board yesterday, and I have been through this before with others on here and I usually just stop postin' for awhile and just lurk. Sometimes it is better to just sit back and watch!!!

 

[Snake33]

it depends on if they actually win the title or if its a countdown gift yet again

Fair enuff.... Who would be ahead today by the old points system? Oops, my bad... points wont be reset until after Indy.

 

[mw6789]

I sure wouldn't pretent to be a fuel racing "expert", but is a lot of reaction time in a fuel car based not so much on driver, but car reaction and set up?

 

[clwill]

I sure wouldn't pretent to be a fuel racing "expert", but is a lot of reaction time in a fuel car based not so much on driver, but car reaction and set up?

Yes, but as someone else noted, the key issue is consistency. If the driver is consistently cutting .150 lights, the mechanical folks can come up with tricks to make it leave faster. Maybe they find a way to cut .075 out of it, to get it into the reasonable range around .075. But it they're cutting a .150 today and a .060 tomorrow, you're screwed...

 

[MaC]

Chris,

Just how do you measure the drivers reaction time...as opposed to the car's...particularly in competition situations.

This measurement has been done before, primarily by Frank Hawley, to answer the questions about the separation of the two reaction times. His tests proved that each play a major role in the reaction time you see displayed on the scoreboard or the computer screen.

I have yet to hear of anyone coming up with a reliable means of measuring both reactions while in the midst of competition.

That kind of information could go a long way toward answering the perplexing question regarding any driver/car and the resulting reaction times.

MaC

 

[none]

Aaahhhh. The sweet words of sound judgement and reason. Thanks Dave.

 

[clwill]

Chris,

Just how do you measure the drivers reaction time...as opposed to the car's...particularly in competition situations.

This measurement has been done before, primarily by Frank Hawley, to answer the questions about the separation of the two reaction times. His tests proved that each play a major role in the reaction time you see displayed on the scoreboard or the computer screen.

I have yet to hear of anyone coming up with a reliable means of measuring both reactions while in the midst of competition.

That kind of information could go a long way toward answering the perplexing question regarding any driver/car and the resulting reaction times.

MaC

Mac, this is one of the key questions, of course, and Frank did some ground-breaking work.

But more could probably be done. I think high-speed video could be part of the solution -- especially now that the LEDs are used on the tree. If there was a way to synch the tree to the data gathered on the car you'd know a lot more, and in-car high-speed video might be the key. With video equipment getting smaller, and faster, by the minute, we're getting closer every day.

I envision an in-car system that can see the tree, and that is synched (either through the video or electronically) to the data-gathering system. After the run, you could see the lights, measure pedal (button) movement, and compare it to driveshaft movement. You'd have the three key elements: tree, driver, car.

Nonetheless, absolute reaction time isn't much more than an interesting scientific study. If the driver can develop consistency, and remove as much of the human variability out of it as possible, the crew can work on adding/removing car delay to a safe level, and you'd have a winning combination -- at least at the tree end of the track.

 

[force fan]

And to paraphrase you, Lynn.. "It is what it is..get over it already."



I think it's just your 'tude that people are having an issue with. The show this past weekend was great. Interview the people that go rounds..and leave the fluff alone. I don't give a sh!t about Ashley's p ussy..cat.

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[Paul]

it depends on if they actually win the title or if its a countdown gift yet again

It is still too early to start this debate again.

 

[PJ]

It is still too early to start this debate again.

Yeah I know, but even you, the die hard countdown fan, wavered hard after last year with Wilk....if I can turn you around then Compton iwll be easy lol

 

[Jenn]

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You ought to practice some discretion and not flip off a moderator, I'm just sayin'...

 

[force fan]

You ought to practice some discretion and not flip off a moderator, I'm just sayin'...

Actually, Jenn that was not me.When I seen your post, I was thinkin' what the hell is she talkin' about and then I looked back and seen that. I let my friend's teenage daughter check out some of the posts on here and she must have done that!!! I'm sorry about that David. I told her to just read the posts and not respond to any of them. I promise that won't happen again.And I don't think she was directing that at him personally since she doesn't even know who he is. She's just a typical teenager. I'm tryin' to be a good girl...........................

 

[Muddy]

Just a thought but perhaps the car is set so that if you left exactly the same everytime you'd have a...say a .110 and on occassion the driver gets a bit amped up and leaves early with a,,, .060 and the next time a .089 etc. Perhaps she leaving better than the car is set up to do. Only the crew cheif and Ashley really know the truth. She's winning more than loosing so get off her case.

 

[force fan]

Just a thought but perhaps the car is set so that if you left exactly the same everytime you'd have a...say a .110 and on occassion the driver gets a bit amped up and leaves early with a,,, .060 and the next time a .089 etc. Perhaps she leaving better than the car is set up to do. Only the crew cheif and Ashley really know the truth. She's winning more than loosing so get off her case.

Be careful what you say, John...........

 

[Bullard Anderson]

Has there ever been more debate on a 1st round loss?

 

[force fan]

Has there ever been more debate on a 1st round loss?

Nope, it's only because it's Ashley. If it was any other driver it wouldn't even be discussed!!!!