And so it begins.....Torco

[ozfuel]

Call me childish, but considering the current situation, this from EK's mater profile gave me a laugh.

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[none]

Many of us have been around people that have had "closed head injuries."
It changes them.
IMHO, saying an injury was behind the actions is something akin to saying " the brick broke the window."
Unfortunately, it appears Evan "threw the brick that broke the window."
It may be the same as someone who is charged of committing a crime while being mentally unbalanced. Don't they confine those people to a mental institution until they are well enough to understand the crime they are charged with. Then, they are tried for their crime.
It is still a big shame and waste. Nobody will win this.

Lee
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[Meeks]

Whether the injury rattled around his brain or not, I guarantee you that this will be the wholesale excuse for his actions that will be shoved down our throats. Seems like the right excuse for the situation to me, so I'm sure EK and his lawyer will milk it for all it's worth.
I don't buy it for a second.. That whole brain injury "rest for a year" thing was the cover up excuse from the start. I will also bet the judge won't buy it either.

I think what you see in those posts are what the real EK is. He seemed "just fine" while he was spending money he didn't have. He was fine while he assured everybody that his right hand man would have the checks in the mail. I never saw one person complain that he was out of his mind because of fear of losing everything, others because they had their lips welded to his posterior..
You know, for a brain injured person, he sure did one hell of a complicated, two in a half twist, triple backwards flip dive in the pike position dance until the balloon burst for all to see. Many kept on supporting his ways because they thought he would sprinkle more imaginary pixie dust in 2009 like he said, and others just couldn't/didn't believe it was over.. Only when he was obviously ruined did people finally see the light over the BS excuses, and then it was safe to comment..

Hit the nail on the head!

 

["Dr. Dirt"]

You are welcome Dave. I appreciate someone bringing something to a topic besides dirt or flames.......

Some will get it, some will not

Mel, this could be the understatement of the year!

From reading this thread, a few things seem certain. Some of these folks know enough about the inner-workings of Torco Gas and Evan Knoll's personal life to pass judgment (which is a very dangerous thing to do in my book-you know the big black one?) It further seems to be evident that one poster knows Evan's medical condition in depth to the point that he may even be his neurosurgeon.
One thing is for sure:
Some will get it and some will not. Disappointing as it may be, some seem to be relishing in the opportunity to kick a man while he's down.

Again, I'll choose to say thank you for the real sponsorship dollars that, in fact, did pass into racer's hands despite the wrath and criticism I continue to receive for said thanks. I suspect Dale Creasy feels the same way holding two world championships racing under the Torco banner rather than watching from home. There were so many others in his shoes. The smart ones, like Randy Goodwin, only spent Torco money after it was received. I would submit this as wise counsel to anyone spending sponsorship monies. I've been in business for 40+ years and still don't spend what I don't have in hand. Again, I'm just funny that way?

 

["Dr. Dirt"]

Call me childish, but considering the current situation, this from EK's mater profile gave me a laugh.

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Yours says the same thing? Go figure?

 

[Randy]

Yours says the same thing? Go figure?

Now that right there was funny.

Hey Bobby, "Won't you be my friend?"

 

[none]

Sasquatch is alive!!!...or is that some thawed out gorilla suit...or is that EK's cell mate???

 

["Dr. Dirt"]

Now that right there was funny.

Hey Bobby, "Won't you be my friend?"

You've got to figure out which one I am first!
Or, ask my favorite stalking moderator.

 

[CrewGuy]

The one thing I have learned in my 49+ years of living on this earth.....There is no greener grass on the other side. An offer of sponsor money WITHOUT a contract should have alerted those guys. Scuttlebutt in the pits about LATE payments was a red flag. Come on guys.....If you aren't getting paid on time for a PROMISED deal- why spend the dough [that you don't have yet] on a handshake? I don't know about you guys but I work too damn hard for my money to give it away. I feel for the guys that lost money but this is a sport. If you can't afford to play- do like I do- watch from the sidelines. The Knoll saga will unfold and we will probably never know what really happened............

 

[chop]

Evan probably is/was suffering from the dreaded " Barrett-Jackson Syndrome". They get caught up in the moment,become intoxicated with the notoriety,bid mega bucks on something and bingo,they own it. Then they realize they made a terrible mistake but it's too late to back out. A friend who went to B-J a few years ago told me there were a lot of old guys there with good looking neices.

 

[mike cummings]

Now that right there was funny.

Hey Bobby, "Won't you be my friend?"

Damn Randy, You just had to go there.....again

 

[Randy]

Mike:

Back by popular demand.

RG

 

[Larry]

Where did you hear that?

Randy that was the first release I found on the Mater.
It said he fell off a stepladder putting up Christmas Lights and was taken to the hospital checked out and released.

After awhile he was taken back to the hosp and died.
I never looked any further to see if his autopsy cleared up the matter or if the original premise of the fall causing his demise was true.
If it wasn't like I said I never read anything different.

That said Boyd sure left a legacy of fantastic cars and Hot Rods and maybe we can start a fund to buy me one of them for Christmas !
I would be eternally grateful and would give anyone a ride that wanted it.
I know it was for a customer but that Black 63 split window Black Widow Corvette W/ 572 BBC EFI would be nice !
Boyds gone , RIP

 

[wide oval]

Just throwing out a question...How does one, anyone, get a multi-million dollar loan for a jet without having some very strong financial credentials?

Almost all of us have bought a house, right? Remember all the hoops you had to jump through and documentation you had to provide to get a hundred grand loan? This makes me think there is more to this story then we are seeing. Whoever took the note on this deal was either stupid or caught up in the whole "Evan" wave. No wait, can anyone give me the phone number for the bank that made that loan? I was looking at buying NHRA.
Dan

 

[K20A2]

Just throwing out a question...How does one, anyone, get a multi-million dollar loan for a jet without having some very strong financial credentials?

Almost all of us have bought a house, right? Remember all the hoops you had to jump through and documentation you had to provide to get a hundred grand loan? This makes me think there is more to this story then we are seeing. Whoever took the note on this deal was either stupid or caught up in the whole "Evan" wave. No wait, can anyone give me the phone number for the bank that made that loan? I was looking at buying NHRA.
Dan

you would be amazed at the loans you can get if you show a really high accounts receivable (money owed to you). They are very easy to fudge but a lot of banks take them and will give you very large loans based on them.

 

[clwill]

Just throwing out a question...How does one, anyone, get a multi-million dollar loan for a jet without having some very strong financial credentials?

Almost all of us have bought a house, right? Remember all the hoops you had to jump through and documentation you had to provide to get a hundred grand loan?

It's all about collateral. You (and I) have nothing but the house to secure the loan. EK had not only the plane, but a business with receivables, offices, plants, inventory, etc., etc.

 

[nedannouncer]

Chris, good points.

Remember, FoMoCo got an 18 billion dollar loan back in 2006 to help them pay for their corporate restructuring. EVERYTHING is collateral in that deal, even the Ford logo.

Brian

 

[Randy]

Randy that was the first release I found on the Mater.
It said he fell off a stepladder putting up Christmas Lights and was taken to the hospital checked out and released.

After awhile he was taken back to the hosp and died.
I never looked any further to see if his autopsy cleared up the matter or if the original premise of the fall causing his demise was true.
If it wasn't like I said I never read anything different.

Hey Larry:

Well, that's fine. I can't comment any more on it due to potential privacy rules and all. Let's just say that the person I sleep with works at this big hospital in Whittier and...

RG

 

[Ugly one]

RG,
Get to work, your F/C is calling you.

 

[Randy]

RG,
Get to work, your F/C is calling you.

Big Mike is flying in today (Friday). He's going to earn his pay this weekend.

Daniel and I just about have the body mounted and the car will be off the jig Saturday. Off to paint next week. It's going to be painted Blue and White with a big auto parts logo on it.

RG