Why were the stands half filled at The Winter Nationals? (2 Viewers)

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I'm not sure what the attendance count was at Pomona but from the looks of things from the ESPN cameras it wasn't good. Was anyone there over the weekend? Are we losing fan attendance?
 
We attend 2-3 races a year and in my opinion all races are loosing attendance.
I think NHRA needs to look at ticket prices, the old saying "an empty seat doesn't buy .... (fill in the blank) Hot dog, t-shirt etc."
They don't have to give the seats away but make a deal so the casual spectator can afford to bring his family. JMO
 
Sunday looked decent, but Friday looked like a ghost town and Saturday was just a little bit better than Friday. I understand the weather on Friday kept some away and Saturday there was a Monster Truck show close by. Most sports are down these days, they need to figure out ways to attract new fans.
 
I'm not sure what the attendance count was at Pomona but from the looks of things from the ESPN cameras it wasn't good. Was anyone there over the weekend? Are we losing fan attendance?

Read the thread "Pomona comments Fan perspective".
$9 hot dogs, $10 burgers, $10 parking, and unseasonably Cool temps, and a monster truck show nearby all contributed to low attendance..
 
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Read the thread "Pomona comments Fan perspective".
$9 hot dogs, $10 burgers, $10 parking, and unseasonably Cool temps, and a monster truck show nearby all contributed to low attendance..
That's the normal price for all sporting events. I have been to 2 supercross races and 1 monster truck jam this year and the food and beer was just as expensive, and the seats were packed. The tickets for the monster truck jam was pretty cheap...but the tickets for the supercross was about the same as Nhra or maybe just a little more. Cold damp weather and the fact that there were 3 major events going on with in 20 minutes of each other didn't help the Nhra attendance. But, the fans that did show up got to see some stellar runs and some great racing.;)
 
Getting harder and harder to justify me flying into Ontario twice a year. Flew in early Fri. morning, my buddy from Vegas picked me up and we spent the day and night in Hollywood....just like last few times I've gone. That was the highlight of the trip! Without a doubt the lightest crowd I've ever seen for a Sat. session. Sun. wasn't much better. There were some great performances, like there always is there, but NHRA has got to do something to get people to turn out. And I don't care if the bull riders and monster trucks were in town, Pomona used to always be packed for both races. I was looking at some youtube clips at the airport of Pomona races in the 90s and just like I remembered, it was packed all the way to the finish line. Used to take us over an hour to get out of there. I miss that place when it was like that! I'll be back in Nov. but am looking forward to another night of debauchery on the Sunset Strip more than the 50th Finals. Sad
 
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I was there Fri. thru Sat. and yes it was not to crowded, however the general admission was very packed. I think on Sunday buy the looks of it the gens. were moved up to fill the stands more, just my impression. Parking at 25.00 a day and high food and drink prices NOT controlled by NHRA but the Fairplex make it hard. And as Eugene posted it was a great show for those that did go. As for an answer I have no clue how to get fans back , all we can hope for is to find a cure and continue on with our sport.
 
The chance of me going to another 'national event' is two... slim and none... I seriously don't have a grand laying around to travel 800 mile round trip, hotel for the weekend, ect. to watch about two hour appox of real time of cars going down the track...

And... It's a RACE... not a show... going to the comedy club is a show...

d'kid
 
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With that large of a metro area, it should not matter if there are other motorsports events going on. I have found that coupons and a low price attracts a large crowd. As we have said here before the family is being priced out. So what do you do? You have a set of stands at the top end called the family section. Sell the seats individually for 25.00 ahead and a special family of four package that includes two adults and two kids 15 and under for 45.00 and when that section of seats are sold then you don't sell any more of them. Promote the Hell out of it. It works every time its tried.
 
That's the normal price for all sporting events. I have been to 2 supercross races and 1 monster truck jam this year and the food and beer was just as expensive, and the seats were packed. The tickets for the monster truck jam was pretty cheap...but the tickets for the supercross was about the same as Nhra or maybe just a little more. Cold damp weather and the fact that there were 3 major events going on with in 20 minutes of each other didn't help the Nhra attendance. But, the fans that did show up got to see some stellar runs and some great racing.;)

Great post. The prices of food at any major event shouldn't be a surprise anymore, it's been this way for 10+ years at least.

I would love to do a Winternationals weekend with a trip on Saturday night down to San Diego to see Supercross if those two things continue to coincide!
 
Just a little tid-bit, went to the show yesterday with the better half and not the discount one, it was $42 before we sat down for about 2 hours of entertainment.:eek:
 
The price is huge. I can take the whole family to a "show" event at the local truck or even an IHRA race for what it cost to take 2 of us to a NHRA event. For me locally, I can go to see the Detroit Tigers, Pistons and Red Wings for less that it would cost to go see an NHRA event.
 
it is not a race...it IS A SHOW...and the show has deteriorated and become stagnant....nhra drag racing no longer
cackles, burns out to half track, runs to a 1/4 mile, wacks the throttle in the pits, allows personal beer coolers
in certain bleacher sections, and most of it's racers are part of multi-millionaire's teams.
you don't think all of this resounds with the average fan? (who for example, as chris schoen mentions, used to pack
the fairplex up until the 2000's).
why does the monster truck and supercross races packem' in?...obviously the fans identify more closely with those
forms of motorsports than they do with the nhra.
nhra used to play to a packed house @ pomona 2x annually in one the largest markets in the US; and now they don't.
got news for you, the fan didn't change.....and it's not a ticket, parking or concession price issue either.
 
Just a little tid-bit, went to the show yesterday with the better half and not the discount one, it was $42 before we sat down for about 2 hours of entertainment.:eek:
Movie prices are ridiculous too. But, lets see....two tickets on Sun were what, $140 or so? we paid the $25 to park and spent maybe $60 between the two of us for food/drink. Spent well over $100 on Sat. because we felt like drinking $11 beers. Yes, nobody is holding a gun to my head to attend and I still love the sport obviously, or I wouldn`t go, but it`s not the same spectacle for me like it used to be. A lot of other people in the Southland must feel the same too. Brother in law in Ojai didn`t come down for the first time in ten years.
 
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I can take my girlfriend and I to a Phillies game for what it would cost just me to go to a national event. I don't really mind paying the concession prices, but it's hard to justify the ticket price.
 
I agree that the event did not seem to have the attendance of past years. I'm not sure what the problem is, but I suspect it is multifaceted. We were in the TEC section and while it was far from packed it seemed to be about 80% or so full. Several contributors have stated that parking was $25, that's not true for general parking as it was $10 for each day. $25 was for pit side parking. Nonetheless, parking adds at least $40 dollars to an already expensive weekend. Las Vegas and many other drag racing venues do not charge for parking. Parking at the Fairplex is likely a function of LA County rather than NHRA.

In any case, it was a fabulous event and we did not feel cheated. We'll see you in November!
 
I agree that the event did not seem to have the attendance of past years. I'm not sure what the problem is, but I suspect it is multifaceted.

sorry steve, but said like a politician....just like they try to explain our country's economic downturn...
"the contributing factors seem to be multifaceted"....well maybe someone should identify specific factors.

someone in this thread already mentioned downturn in displays in mfg. midway......wonder why?
could it be less fans? less fans wandering in pits?

lets see - mfg. midway companies pay nhra to be there.....nhra's racers lessen entertainment value in pit area.....
less fans visit pits = less fans in mfg. midway = mfg. midway companies choose to spend money elsewhere.
nhra raises prices elsewhere to compensate for lost revenue from mfg. midway.

think about the pits purely from a fan's comfort/health aspect.
80's and 90's you went to pits; the cars cackled beautifully and the fuel volume was such that you did not get,
with rare exception, obnoxious nitro clouds practically asphyxiating the crowd. the teams could use a rag over
noses until engine was off, or they used nothing at all.

today the cackle is gone, the wacks are gone, and fuel volume is so high that rarely a team member can be seen
without a breathing mask....when the casual fans see this then wonders why he/she is subjected to these fumes
while being caught between trailers with multiple cars firing and there's no easy way to escape the fumes!?
is this really a fun experience?...they go sit behind the bleachers with a beverage or food.
"thanks honey, you drug me back there once and once was enough"

did their asphyxiating experience in the pits combined with on-track action convince them that this form of
entertainment is worth pursuing again?....or do they say to themselves, 'been there, done that'

and sum of us lifers say 'why do i still come here year after year?' obviously there
are a few that have quite.
 
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