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Warren speaks " Indy .. No big deal anymore "
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nitrofishblue
Nitro Member
WJ has always been a big whine baby. Remember when he was trashing Jim Yates when Yates was beating him constantly? Remember when he trashed Darryl Alderman when Darryl was beating him constantly? Remember when he trashed Scott Geoffrian (sp?) when Scott was beating him? Remember when he trashed Jeg for the same reason? WJ just seems to like to trash competitors when he is losing. I lost respect for him years ago. It is time for him to consider retirement.
merc49
Nitro Member
Nope, I can't agree with most of you. I want my racers all to be edgy and mouthy, no matter who they have to tangle with. NASCAR has cracked down on the edginess too, so NHRA in all their jaded wisdom has to be just like NASCAR. I say let all deal with each other. I enjoy the controversy as much as the racing. Cookiecutter racers? Bah!
If it were a certain team owner that posts here, no on would be calling him out. In fact, a lot of posters ripping on WJ would be patting him on the back.
Remember way back when he trashed chassis builders as "prima donnas" when he made abundant horsepower but couldn't figure out how to adjust his car to get it to the track consistently?
BigTuna
Nitro Member
I am glad to see people speak their minds, no matter if I agree or disagree with what they say. As a fan I am sick and tired of the "show" drag racing has become, no one speaks outs, no one speaks there mind, if they do NHRA comes down hard. Its becoming nothing more than 16 actors hitting their sponsorship talking points on any giving sunday with the ocassion wreck. Lets see some emotion, racers happy, racers pissed off, racers speaking their minds. Not a synthetic show.
WJ keep speaking your mind.
WJ keep speaking your mind.
That had to be directed at Warren. Well said Greg!...and that's coming from a guy who has never pulled for you against WJ LOL!
Its not as big as it once was, however it is still bigger than any other race.
My first Indy was in 1982. I had been to other national events but even at 7 yrs old, walking in I just knew this was so much more. Over the years the special funny car and pro stock races have either moved or disappeared, field sizes have gone down...but yes its still Indy.
Now part of that is due to people who are steeped in the History of it. To the newbie in the stands its just " oh the loud cars are in town this weekend lets go". They do not realize that this event is akin to Daytona or the Indy 500, its just a race to them.
However to the group of addicts that I am proud to have hung out with this weekend, it is our yearly pilgramage, the journey to celebrate the past, respect the history and hope for the future of our sport. It its people like that which will still make Indy a special event
My first Indy was in 1982. I had been to other national events but even at 7 yrs old, walking in I just knew this was so much more. Over the years the special funny car and pro stock races have either moved or disappeared, field sizes have gone down...but yes its still Indy.
Now part of that is due to people who are steeped in the History of it. To the newbie in the stands its just " oh the loud cars are in town this weekend lets go". They do not realize that this event is akin to Daytona or the Indy 500, its just a race to them.
However to the group of addicts that I am proud to have hung out with this weekend, it is our yearly pilgramage, the journey to celebrate the past, respect the history and hope for the future of our sport. It its people like that which will still make Indy a special event
my friends call me Zappy
Nitro Member
So true. The "show downs" (PS & FC) are gone. Fields are WAY down. And Indy used to be Point and a half. Now, apart from an extra day, it's just one of 24 races a year. No more - No less.
FC138fan
Nitro Member
What a great point!
Well spoken my friend ! My first Indy was 1971....just a kid fresh out of high school. I got my first snorts of nitro watching all the famous match racers that would show up all summer at the Muncie dragstrip. But my pal invited me to Indy... camping out at the drive-in across from the track.OMG I found heaven on earth....not having to wait all night just to see 2 nitro cars go best 2 out of 3...but solid runs all weekend long !Huge, fun, rowdy crowds...State police hauling drunks to jail all night long, fights, girls ....woohooo ! I think I remember a small block motor that powered a set of rollers on the ground....nitro cars would line up to spin their slicks on the rollers to start up the engines and warm them up...and mostly grass and dirt pits too . Every year when I first get to Indy I choke back the tears....she is an old friend to me and a very magic place !
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1971 was my first Indy as well, my dad running A/A at the time. The feeling that I get as mid-August comes around and Labor day approaches has not gone away after all these years. Back in the '70s there weren't many events, so it was easy for Indy to stand out, plus there were the 32 car TF fields, double points, etc, and later on we had the different shootouts. I think for many who weren't around in the early years, they may see Indy as just another race, for anyone who has been around then they probably get the same feeling that I do on Labor Day weekend, whether I'm there or not. I think NHRA has a great platform and a fantastic heritage to work with in order to make sure Indy always stands out, a little creativity could really cement Indy as THE race even for the newer racers and fans.
Bullard Anderson
Nitro Member
John Force obviously agrees with WJ!!
Mark thanks! It's about time somebody got it.
I guess if this becomes commonplace we'll see drivers pulling over at Daytona, Monaco, at the Indy 500, 24 Hours of Daytona and even BAJA!
MW
Nitro Member
Yeah, NHRA Drag Racing has fallen so far in the last several years, it's sad. Could you imagine Jimmie Johnson being told to pull over and let Jeff Gordon go by for the Daytona or Brickyard checkers. There is NO WAY, and if he got in the way he'd be put in the wall. I don't blame John for his action as much as his reactions. Coming out first with the "I'm going after him" in reference to Hight, and then reacting to the Pedregons like a nut while still trying to pull us into his lie, is insulting. The sentiment around here (Nitromater) is it's OK to lie "because he had to". Well then, I guess the same people should not jump on thier kids when they screw up, because they are being taught that it's OK to lie & cheat when "you have to". NHRA is also at fault because there is no possibility of enforcing the rule (at least against the Force team). Therefore there should be NO RULE. If they made it clear that team play is allowed, then OH Well!!, tough luck, and the Pedregons' would not have a gripe. Instead they question a rule and get MFed to death on this board. The 'if the Shoe was on the other foot" argument does'nt work either because, IT'S NOT!!! Also, folks on this board who call out Don Schumacher's integrity ought to be ashamed of themselves. Name one instance since the well chronicled Seattle race where Team Shoe has broken that rule. I seem to recall Ron Capps putting a pretty good dent in Whit B's title hopes a few years back by winning razor thin races. Everyone knows JF is NHRA (especially his puppets who run it), but in my mind he been instrumental in the free fall of NHRA as much as he helped bring it to its pinnacle (there is no denying that). From the chassis deal to 1000' YAWN racing, just those two highly pressed issues (by JFR) have cost the sport quite a few racers (who cannot keep up with new car costs), and thousands of LOYAL fans (who won't stand for "short track" racing). On top of those add the Countdown and dozens of other failures by NHRA, and this sport will continue to spiral. Oh well! you all enjoy it because after 175 + National events (and hundreds of independents), seeing Indy 2008 at 1000' (sacrelige) was the final straw for me, and the NHRA "Big Show" will never see any more of my $$$. Jim Head told me "Good Riddance, you guys won't be missed". I guess time will tell. All you JFR/ JFRA/ NHRA cronies FLAME AWAY!!!!!!!!!
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