Shortened PS Schedule for '18? (1 Viewer)

[Rajunz]

Asher doesn't have the right idea, NO WAY will factory stock cars keep people in the seats.

 

[Bob K.]

Sure, there could be a world wide class, but I kinda think it would not be OHV engines like we run. You'd have to open up the class to, say, DOHC V-6, with turbos, and have all kinds of brands represented. Maybe even a turbo 4 cyl, EFI, DOHC, etc. I dunno, I just think that if you have a class that uses engines that we all have in our passenger cars, the cars would be more appealing to the spectators, especially the younger ones. That was the whole idea of Pro Stock in 1970. You knew the car had a real cast iron engine & it was a real car, not a tube chassis with a carbon fiber body that kinda looks like a Camero. No wait, if we DID have a class like I just mentioned, it would be tube chassis & carbon fiber body. Oh well.....

How about DOHC V-8s? Ford builds them, Chevrolet is about to release a DOHC 6.2 and Mopar builds lots of DOHC engines. The "Hemi" they run is not a true Hemi anyway. It is much like the GM type cylinder head but with the valves splayed farther apart and the Spark plug down the middle. A true Hemi engine cannot achieve the monstrous high static compression ratio that a "semi hemi" can which was the rat motor was often called when it was released. I was racing when the first 396 hi pos were run down the track in Stock form. I remember being on the starting line at Half Moon Bay Drag Strip when a new Biscayne with headers made a run. I got down low and listened to that engine go through the gears. I said then that that would be the engine of the future! Most scoffed at that comment, but how true it became! Drag racing is FAR OUT, as my buddy Jim Liberman said even before he was "Jungle" Jim.

 

[Bob K.]

PS is really an amazing class. i wish they could alter it to attract more racers.....a handful of engine builders now know the 500 efi chevy secrets, and a couple others are close. IMO it would be nice to configure a pro class similar to comp, where various combinations
could be used, but all must be doorslammers within given parameters; to the point where regional competitors could race in the class and entries mite even dictate 32 car fields......i don't know. ProMod is cool, but IMO it's not the substitute answer.
you can't tell me with the plethora of doorslammer classes that are run around the world
under various sanctioning bodies, that a group of really smart racers, owners, and
nhra officials can not device a new, very forward thinking, professional doorslammer class?

Pro Mods always attract quite a few more cars that the sixteen car field. Pro Stock often does not. I love Pro Stock and don't want to see it gone. As Far as Pro Mods being in more events. They don't want any more events. Their costs are damn close to Pro Stock maybe in some cases more. I think we are lucky to have Pro Mod at as many events as we do. Maybe Pro Stock should be cut back as far as quantity of events. NHRA needs something to attract more spectators. Top Fuel Harleys are a great addition. How about Nostalgia Funny cars at some events.
Maybe Nostalgia S/S? That's the last class that I ran in before I retired. It sure is popular at the Calif. Hot Rod Reunion. Maybe Fuel Altereds at certain events? What I personally like to see is a lower amount limit on the damn throttle stop "Super" classes and an increase in Stock class and Super Stock class. But this is just my opinion about the sport I started racing in 56 years ago. So don't be to hard on me. I just want to see a better show for the spectators and attract more of them.

 

[Cliff]

I like the idea of DOHC V-8 engines in Pro Stock. Every car sold in the USA has a DOHC or SOHC engine, regardless of # of cyls. If NHRA mandated fuel injection, why not OHC heads as well? Re: Super classes. I would like to see S/C run on a 7.90 index, S/G 8.90 (& get rid of the roadsters - let the roadsters run S/C) but leave Super Street at 10.90 and no tube chassis. Make Super Street a class that would be easier for new competitiors to run in. Would also like to see some variety in the S/C & S/G classes. I know the Super racers run hard and the cars are really marvels how they are built for the classes. It's just, and I hate saying this, they all look the same. All rear engine dragsters, no front engine cars or altered in S/C. Super Gas all roadsters of some kind with a funny car body. Super Gas was supposed to be a class based on street cars, with doors that worked, etc when it first started. Well, just my 2 cents. No offence to the Super racers, cuz they ARE Super.

 

[fxconde]

Allow only street engines with unlimited internal mods with factory injectors with any computer and please make them look like real cars!

 

[mick]

let PS die. do not replace it with anything. focus on why your fans show up and why someone watches TV. john schnatter did not put a female PS racer on his nat. tv ads......focus on what nhra entertainment is....TF and FC. PS is dead weight, let it go. plenty of other classes to fill time at nat. events. give fans more time between rounds to spend money and smell nitro. maybe shorten your FS1 shows. keep psb, but only because HD writes big checks, when the checks stop, can PSB too. NHRA professional drag racing is TF and FC.....those two classes are our 'winston cup'.
2 classes for the fans at the track and on tv......NHRA = nitro. that's the show.
personally i love PS, comp, stock and super stock, but any derivation of these classes in
the name of some reorganized 'pro' class IMO will garner no more fan appeal than PS rite now.
make a wholesale change and move ahead. take the PS (and PSB) mello yello money
and spread it around to nitro qualifying and first round loser; then see what happens to 'barely 16 car fields'.....all of a sudden final qualifying is worth paying attention to again.

 

[Reese]

Mike, you forgot to add lower ticket prices. I love going to the Nats but when I asked newbies to come with me, the ticket prices turn them off. Also when someone do go with me, they love it but not for that price.

 

[mick]

armand, i'll respectfully disagree with you on ticket prices......but will add, not having GA seats that are good
on your front gate general admission is wrong......ex: every seat at BIR is reserved; IMO this hurts their spectator draw.

 

[mick]

is there really a doorslammer class that wlll capture the attention of the fans, and sponsors,
like PS did in it's heyday?......i think the answer is no.....time to streamline the nat. event program....fans are there for nitro.
for about 15 years they've been demonstrating this by leaving bleachers when PS starts.....every ticket is a pit pass.
yes, the fans know this, and they are not in the PS pits......nitro on the track, nitro in the pits.....let sponsors solicit fans as
much as possible when they are not in their seat........take the fans, move them around....seat, pits, vendors...repeat = profit.

 

[The Counterfeiter]

ve Super Street at 10.90 and no tube chassis. Make Super Street a class that would be easier for new competitiors to run in. Would also like to see some variety in the S/C & S/G classes. I know the Super racers run hard and the cars are really marvels how they are built for the classes. It's just, and I hate saying this, they all look the same. All rear engine dragsters, no front engine cars or altered in S/C. Super Gas all roadsters of some kind with a funny car body. Super Gas was supposed to be a class based on street cars, with doors that worked, etc when it first started. Well, just my 2 cents. No offence to the Super racers, cuz they ARE Super.[/QUOTE]

I like the idea of DOHC V-8 engines in Pro Stock. Every car sold in the USA has a DOHC or SOHC engine, regardless of # of cyls. If NHRA mandated fuel injection, why not OHC heads as well? Re: Super classes. I would like to see S/C run on a 7.90 index, S/G 8.90 (& get rid of the roadsters - let the roadsters run S/C) but leave Super Street at 10.90 and no tube chassis. Make Super Street a class that would be easier for new competitiors to run in. Would also like to see some variety in the S/C & S/G classes. I know the Super racers run hard and the cars are really marvels how they are built for the classes. It's just, and I hate saying this, they all look the same. All rear engine dragsters, no front engine cars or altered in S/C. Super Gas all roadsters of some kind with a funny car body. Super Gas was supposed to be a class based on street cars, with doors that worked, etc when it first started. Well, just my 2 cents. No offence to the Super racers, cuz they ARE Super.

I like the idea of DOHC V-8 engines in Pro Stock. Every car sold in the USA has a DOHC or SOHC engine, regardless of # of cyls. If NHRA mandated fuel injection, why not OHC heads as well? Re: Super classes. I would like to see S/C run on a 7.90 index, S/G 8.90 (& get rid of the roadsters - let the roadsters run S/C) but leave Super Street at 10.90 and no tube chassis. Make Super Street a class that would be easier for new competitiors to run in. Would also like to see some variety in the S/C & S/G classes. I know the Super racers run hard and the cars are really marvels how they are built for the classes. It's just, and I hate saying this, they all look the same. All rear engine dragsters, no front engine cars or altered in S/C. Super Gas all roadsters of some kind with a funny car body. Super Gas was supposed to be a class based on street cars, with doors that worked, etc when it first started. Well, just my 2 cents. No offence to the Super racers, cuz they ARE Super.

 

[The Counterfeiter]

Odd . . . a lot of Corvette, Camaro and CTSV owners are going to be very confused when they can't find one or two cams on the top of the heads of their LS motors.

 

[Nick Name]

is there really a doorslammer class that wlll capture the attention of the fans, and sponsors,
like PS did in it's heyday?......i think the answer is no.....time to streamline the nat. event program....fans are there for nitro.
for about 15 years they've been demonstrating this by leaving bleachers when PS starts.....every ticket is a pit pass.
yes, the fans know this, and they are not in the PS pits......nitro on the track, nitro in the pits.....let sponsors solicit fans as
much as possible when they are not in their seat........take the fans, move them around....seat, pits, vendors...repeat = profit.

Mike; Have you heard of Donald Duck's radial door slammer events? The last one had 3 or 4 offramps of the freeway closed at 8AM because they simply could not accomodate anymore spectators.

 

[megadeth]

I have no problem with them shortening the Camaro nationals that class has become a huge bore!
Pro Mod, Pro Mod, Pro Mod!
Quicker lots of various combinations and different manufactures and years!

 

[Sean D, shondoo]

Mike; Have you heard of Donald Duck's radial door slammer events? The last one had 3 or 4 offramps of the freeway closed at 8AM because they simply could not accomodate anymore spectators.

Because they were the show. Put them at a National Event where fuel cars are in the house and you'll see essentially the same mass exodus from the stands when the fuel cars are done running. That phenomenon will never change.

Sean D

 

[mick]

Mike; Have you heard of Donald Duck's radial door slammer events? The last one had 3 or 4 offramps of the freeway closed at 8AM because they simply could not accomodate anymore spectators.

just looked up 'duck x productions'.....i see what you mean jay.....but i agree with sean, at the
'x' races the small tire / radial tire cars ARE the show.....and the $25 ticket price reflects that.
you are not going to see nitro cars.......bet it's a good show though.

 

[MHayes]

Mike; Have you heard of Donald Duck's radial door slammer events? The last one had 3 or 4 offramps of the freeway closed at 8AM because they simply could not accomodate anymore spectators.

His events are typically held at SGMP, which has a seating capacity of 3,000! There are typically more racers and "friends of racers" than there are spectators. It doesn't take much to "sell out" a venue with so little seating.

 

[8sec71]

let PS die. do not replace it with anything. focus on why your fans show up and why someone watches TV. john schnatter did not put a female PS racer on his nat. tv ads......focus on what nhra entertainment is....TF and FC. PS is dead weight, let it go. plenty of other classes to fill time at nat. events. give fans more time between rounds to spend money and smell nitro. maybe shorten your FS1 shows. keep psb, but only because HD writes big checks, when the checks stop, can PSB too. NHRA professional drag racing is TF and FC.....those two classes are our 'winston cup'.
2 classes for the fans at the track and on tv......NHRA = nitro. that's the show.
personally i love PS, comp, stock and super stock, but any derivation of these classes in
the name of some reorganized 'pro' class IMO will garner no more fan appeal than PS rite now.
make a wholesale change and move ahead. take the PS (and PSB) mello yello money
and spread it around to nitro qualifying and first round loser; then see what happens to 'barely 16 car fields'.....all of a sudden final qualifying is worth paying attention to again.

Dead on with a zero. I love Pro Stock and so do other racers but that's it. Everyone else comes for nitro. Period.

 

[SoCal Racer]

The crew chief was Jon Kasse!!! This is the guy who builds killer Pro Mod Ford engines and engines for all kinds of classes. King of the Ford builders. Well, they gotta start somewhere. I did like Pinto Pro Stockers cuz my first new car was a 1971 Pinto. 4 speed. 4 banger. Low 17's no problem.... (heh)

Kaase raced here a lot (this photo is at Thompson Drag Raceway - now Thompson Raceway Park) long before anyone knew who he was.

 

[DrRocket]

A long time ago, I used to love the S/G class because there was a hug variety of cars. Then, the first Corvette roadster showed up. No one realized it at the time, but it spelled the death of variety in the class as all of the racers gravitated to that setup.

 

[Nunz]

That's an inherent problem with all kinds of racing. Over time, everyone gravitates toward whatever is believed to be the best combo.