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Overheard on the Daytona 500

We need that same swap between NASCAR and NHRA..... lets see Danica try to let the clutch out of Erica's Pro Stock car and keep it straight down the 1/4 without peeing herself. You can get comfortable in a Cup car after a few hundred miles

Works for me . . . let's put Erica in a Cup car at Daytona or an Indycar at IMS for three hours driving inches from 42 (or 32) other cars and see how she does. I've met and talked racing with Danica - I have very little doubt that she could handle a Pro Stocker. There is a huge difference between controlling a very tricky drag car for 6.5 seconds and having the car control, stamina and focus to compete in NASCAR of Indycar (let alone F1).
 
Chris... i believe DW mentioned it after it was brought up on one of the practice shows on friday.. Mike Joy also mentioned it then too..but they mentioned they had been brought back to them by a friend or two on twitter...lol...


I know a couple of her top crew guys.. and they both say the same thing about Danica... her reflexxes and attention ot detail is better than most of the other drivers she competes against.... to me that means she could handel a PS with out an isse ..might take a couple passes to get the feel for it..but show me one PS driver that jumped in and hit it right the FIRST time...lol...

Anyone that wants to know how hard it is to jump up to speed in a INDY car needs to sign up for iRacing.com and take a lap or two.... talk about a handfull...lol
 
Or the Petty cars, I did not have much respect for stock cars until I drove one, they are not on rails, they move all over the place, Still would rather drive my Altered, don't see anybody being able to get comfortable especially at race speeds with that many cars all over you. Would like to see Danica and Erica switch cars and hear them compare the two
 
Wow, this thread went places I didn't imagine...

On the original point, I find it amazing that someone could make the statement without at least Marty Reid (also in the booth), who is no stranger to NHRA and its history of diversity, challenging it. Maybe he did so in private.

I also find it interesting that two sports, established at roughly the same time, with roughly the same sort of appeal (loud fast cars and a somewhat rebel image), have taken such divergent paths. And this has lead to very different results. One has had broad national exposure with media coverage and sponsorships that rival the stick and ball sports, and the other has ... well ... not.

I think some of the keyboard studs on here need to take a Frank Hawley class and try to drive something down the strip at more than 150mph. Once you get past that hurdle, let me know when you get your first Wally. People who have been in the sport for decades are still waiting for theirs. The skill it takes to do this sport at the highest level is, while very different, is no less than what it takes to compete in NASCAR. A fat checkbook can get you into either sport, but by no means guarantees you will be credible.

The determination and focus Erica showed yesterday was no less than what Danica showed. Hours of intense preparation for seconds of execution at the correct moments. Danica was third just a couple of laps before the finish but failed to execute properly and ended up eighth. Erica spent hours (from about 11:30am to about 4pm) doing the same and came out on top. Except if Danica had made a poor pit stop or some other loss of focus, she had hours to make up for it. Erica would have been on the trailer.

Finally, while I understand the rivalry and sour grapes of people here toward NASCAR, you need to learn to appreciate both. For every joke you make about constantly turning left, they have one about <4 second races.

Excellent post. As the Shirley character said to the reporter in Heart Like A Wheel, "If you think its so easy, why dont you come on down to the track and try it". NASCAR and NHRA are both the pinnacle of their respective types of auto racing. And I dont care who you are, what gender you are, or how much money you can bring to the table, if you dont produce you wont be in the seat very long. And if you climb to the upper tier of ANY motorsport, you possess a great deal of talent. I am not a big Danica fan, but I do appreciate the fact that she is proving to be a competent stock car driver. And I appreciate the years of preparation and focus it took to get to that point. As do I appreciate the accomplishments of Ms Muldowney---especially at a time when the cars were much more difficult to drive. And she didnt have a crew of 100 people to get the job done either. I just think its sad that all the hype with Danica makes it sound like she is the only female to be successful in motor sports. And just for the record, I happen to like both NASCAR and NHRA---and appreciate the fact that they are very different in lots of ways.
 
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The recent car swaps between Formula One drivers and NASCAR drivers (Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon swapped with Louis Hamilton and Juan Pablo Montoya so far) showcased the differences in their sports, but with some surprising results ( Jeff was close to running qualifying times in his first outing in the F1 car). We need that same swap between NASCAR and NHRA..... lets see Danica try to let the clutch out of Erica's Pro Stock car and keep it straight down the 1/4 without peeing herself ;)

You can get comfortable in a Cup car after a few hundred miles, but drag racing is a violent sport at the beginning, in the middle and at the finish line.... and beyond the turn off too....just ask Melanie Troxel about that (or Bruce Allen when his P/S car dieseled on it's own oil and wouldn't shut down!)
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2003 NHRA Lucas Oil Route 66 Nationals Qualifying - YouTube

Somehow I bet running 200 at Talledega in a pack of 43 cars ain't no picnic either.
 
Somehow I bet running 200 at Talledega in a pack of 43 cars ain't no picnic either.


Ahhh.....I guess then you haven't driven on New Jersey highways , huh? :D ;) :p



and usually at Daytona and Talladega, there will be less than 43 cars....just give em a little time..... :D
 
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I think some of the keyboard studs on here need to take a Frank Hawley class and try to drive something down the strip at more than 150mph. Once you get past that hurdle, let me know when you get your first Wally. People who have been in the sport for decades are still waiting for theirs. The skill it takes to do this sport at the highest level is, while very different, is no less than what it takes to compete in NASCAR. A fat checkbook can get you into either sport, but by no means guarantees you will be credible.

The determination and focus Erica showed yesterday was no less than what Danica showed. Hours of intense preparation for seconds of execution at the correct moments. Danica was third just a couple of laps before the finish but failed to execute properly and ended up eighth. Erica spent hours (from about 11:30am to about 4pm) doing the same and came out on top. Except if Danica had made a poor pit stop or some other loss of focus, she had hours to make up for it. Erica would have been on the trailer.

Yup. I race Top Dragster, but in the past I've raced bicycles, motorcycles, 3 wheelers, 4 wheelers, street cars (:o), door cars, and stock cars. Each has a certain skill set, some people are better suited for one more than the other, but none are easy to master to the point where you can compete with the best of the best. In each sport there are people that have spent their entire lifetime perfecting their craft. To say that it would be easy to step in with a checkbook and out-perform someone that is competitive in a sport is naive in my opinion.

We only stock car raced 4 years, but it is a different focus than drag racing. You are concentrating on the fastest line if you are out front or not in traffic. You are thinking about being smooth, about how to pass the next car or making it hard on the car behind you to get around you. Focused, yes, but if "I shouldn't have eaten that chili dog" slips into your mind for a second you don't automatically lose the race. In drag racing, that thought creates a .150 light instead of the .005 you needed.

From that perspective, I always thought stock car racing was "easier", because you could work on your game as the race and season progressed. Very little chance for that in drag racing--you get another shot next weekend.

One of the big mental challenges in drag racing is being consistent. If you sit next in line for an hour as they clean up an oildown, you have to be instantly "on" when they tell you to fire it up. And not just "on", but the same level of intensity, heart rate, breathing, and thought process whether it is first round of a weekend race or the final round of a national event. It's easy to get too jacked up and red light, or too calm and go .050 on the tree. Stock car racing I always found easier to be consistent because you get warm up laps and time to get in the goove.

When you and your crew have worked hard on the car, it's late in the rounds and you roll out from under the tower and there is 20,000 people in the stands staring at you, for me THAT is a lot of pressure to perform and perform in the exact same way as every other time. I can only imagine what that is like strapped BEHIND 10,000 hp, on national TV, with big-time sponsors to please and high expectations from everyone. If that doesn't affect your ability to focus and do the same exact burnout, same heat in the clutch, same backup procedure, same staging procedure, hit the tree the same, keep that monster in the groove, think about pedaling it at the exact right time, go 320-325 mph, hit the 'chutes and hopefully stop safely, you have icewater running through your veins and should be doing something other than banging on a keyboard! :D
 
Nice Bill! Points well made and backed up with examples and experiences....
Of course there may be someone soon telling you that you don't know what you are talking about, :D but I really enjoyed that post!!
 
Auto Racing was the whole intent. It was either Pheonix or Daytona, I don't remember. And they even mention Erica and Courtney on their broadcast along with the NHRA when they were talking about ladies racing
 
Different cars.
Different racing.
But...speed?
I would guess Danica has been "faster" than most NASCAR guys have.
ANYONE that can race at that level has my respect.
She is a race car driver.
 
And Mike where have you bee running at?.....lol.. sorry you left that door open....lol.....

Wise man once told me about auto racing adn the driver in their respected classes.... there are alot of racers that have proven they can get the job done.... but alot more have proven they cant..... only time will tell if Danica has the talent to get the job done.. right now what on Danicas side is Tony Gibson.... he has done more tham most know when it comes to getting drivers and teams to step their level up on the race track....

Just a few points on Tony... he was the key guy that worked side by side with Allen Kulwiki getting his cars and team to a championship level on a much lower budget.... He worked with Derick Cope to get him his only two wins in CUP....After Ray Everham left Jeff Gordon he was the car chief that helped bring JG back to the winner circle(something Robbie Loomis could not do till Tony joined them...... he then left to go to DEI and helped get their efforts more online with what other "super" teams were doing.... plus a whole lot more....
 

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