Muscle cars vs pony cars? (2 Viewers)

[chop]

I understand what you are saying, and just for sake of the discussion. If I have a 67 427 Corvette that the engine blew after six months and was replaced under factory warranty. Is it still an original numbers matching car?

Alan

No because the original vin # would not be on the block. Cheverolet stated putting vin #'s on engines before Olds did but not sure when. Another thing you get into with originality is date codes on various parts. It gets really anal with rare cars.

 

[none]

Appreciate the information, that's why I was asking. When I was told that a date code 68 head would be considered "Original" on my 67 car as a warrenty replacement. (Again, I'm not saying that is gospel, just what I was told at the time)

Isn't that number stamped in? So could a replacement just be stamped with the original number? Because each individual block wasn't cast with a different number. Right?

Interesting discussion.

Alan

 

[z28]

That’s a very interesting question Alan, maybe if the block and heads could be used in the rebuild, total replacement I would think it would not be considered numbers matching, just my assumption not a expert on this

usually the owner will or should reveal that. the block can be traced back as a genuine replacement by GM, Ford, etc. usually doesn't have much effect in the pricing I've seen.

 

[Butch]

I understand what you are saying, and just for sake of the discussion. If I have a 67 427 Corvette that the engine blew after six months and was replaced under factory warranty. Is it still an original numbers matching car?

Alan

Alan, that reminded to of a guy in my neighborhood had a 69 Z28. He grinaded two engines, but his uncle owned the dealership. So I imagine he got a better treatment than Joe Blow.
But that would've brought into the scenario you mentioned.

 

[Jim]

A 68 Mustang 6 cyl. is a Pony Car, Same car with the 428, Muscle Car.

Wouldn't a pony car with a 428 be a horse car?

 

[chop]

Appreciate the information, that's why I was asking. When I was told that a date code 68 head would be considered "Original" on my 67 car as a warrenty replacement. (Again, I'm not saying that is gospel, just what I was told at the time)

Isn't that number stamped in? So could a replacement just be stamped with the original number? Because each individual block wasn't cast with a different number. Right?

Interesting discussion.

Alan

The vin # stamping on engines is very hard to duplicate. Engine restamping is very much frowned upon and it has caused a lot of grief in the muscle car world. It can be done and when restamps are caught it can and will cause the seller legal issues. Chevy' restamping is the worst. The vin# is stamped on the deck on a pad right in front of the right hand cylinder head. When the deck a Chevy block you lose the OEM vin #. There's absolutely nothing wrong with using replacement parts but it hurts the value of a matching number correct car.

 

[ironpony]

Alan, that reminded to of a guy in my neighborhood had a 69 Z28. He grinaded two engines, but his uncle owned the dealership. So I imagine he got a better treatment than Joe Blow.
But that would've brought into the scenario you mentioned.

There are more 69 Z28's registered right now than were originally built.