my friends call me Zappy
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You misunderstood me. I never said the races were scripted. I simply asked how the person was so sure that the races were not scripted.
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More Street Outlaws Insanity
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And here's another in LA from 5 days ago: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...ve-involved-street-racing-20151114-story.html
Larry
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I noticed in the Pic's of the demise of the Crow " Big Chief's " twin Turboed 69 GTO that they were racing on a street with curbs . The Chief was hit by the Mustang he was racing destroying both cars . The Chief has said he has $125,000 and three years invested in the Crow .
They do prefer cement to pavement and Industrial areas but with these high powered cars curbs are dangerous as hells .
My problem is I love big tire high HP cars and S O has plenty but you won't catch me racing on a street legal or otherwise .
It's dangerous enough on a well prepped track and near insanity on any street .
Of course they race on tracks around my area too but as fast as they run NHRA may at some point pull their license forcing them to race solely on the streets closed or otherwise .
As long as the streets are closed except to racers I guess NHRA is taking a wait and see attitude .
They do prefer cement to pavement and Industrial areas but with these high powered cars curbs are dangerous as hells .
My problem is I love big tire high HP cars and S O has plenty but you won't catch me racing on a street legal or otherwise .
It's dangerous enough on a well prepped track and near insanity on any street .
Of course they race on tracks around my area too but as fast as they run NHRA may at some point pull their license forcing them to race solely on the streets closed or otherwise .
As long as the streets are closed except to racers I guess NHRA is taking a wait and see attitude .
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Nitro Cane
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Is there any news on how Big Chef is doing ?
stitcherbob
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Well, sadly Chef Paul Prudhomme died a while back, but I hear Justin is healing http://www.automobilemag.com/featur...safely-recovering-after-crash-during-filming/
my friends call me Zappy
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NHRA is a fool, if they pull their license. This is FREE advertisement
Huge
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I don't think street racing is the type of advertisement that Nhra is looking for. It represents just the opposite of what Nhra drag racing is all about.
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For all you guys that think drag strips and organizations like NHRA will stop or even put a dent in the number of street races I'd like to discuss some ocean front property in Arizonia I have for sale. Most street races occur much the same as the street outlaw scenes where farm truck is "fishin". They don't take time to drive XX miles to the drag strip (assuming its open and there is one) pay the admission fee, put up with all the tech and they never will. Even the prearanged gatherings make going to the local drag strip boring and just not worth the effort. I live in Oklahoma City and we've had an operational drag strip within 30 or 40 miles of downtown OKC almost full time since about 1954. And yet where is the street outlaw show and the 405 list based...wait for it.....OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA.. As far as NHRA banning the people on the show talk to your local srtip operator aboout their feeling along this line. The very bigest crowds at the liocal strip is when they book in the 405 group.
Huge
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Nhra was the main reason i quit drag racing on the street when i was a kid back in the seventies. They have detoured some of us...but we can't expect them to detour all of us. Some kids are just going to be non detourable. But, you are right, the 405 group and street racing is very popular with the young crowd...and that's what's scary. There are a lot of things Nhra does that i disagree with and don't like...but, trying to detour kids from racing on the street is not one of them.
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none
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Other than what I read here or hear on Discovery before I (or my son!) mute a SO commercial I don't follow the scene. Wasn't a structural failure significant in one of the injuries earlier this year? If so, I wonder how that racer feels about the lack of tech inspection, now.
I think the one your referring to is Daddy Dave's accident which happend at Amarillo (NHRA sanctioned) dragstrip. The chassis had a current SEMA certification for the chassis and was built by a certified chassis shop.
Way back in the day I quit street racing because it just wasn't practicle to street race a fuel dragster although I did see Leroy Goldstein and I think it was Jim Nicole do just that in front of our shop about 2 miles from downtown OKC. It occured at SW 36 on S Robiinson ave which is a main north south street. They only raced about 400 feet but it caused a bit of excitment in the neighborhood. When the traffic light turned green there was a lot of fumes, noise, smoke and excitement and of course the local police showed up and wondered what in the heck (not their word) we were doing. Man o man the stories that came out of that shop were almost unbelivable, if I hadn't seen and lived them I'd never believe them.
my friends call me Zappy
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The term "STREET" is very misleading. They use a closed stretch of pavement, or airport runway. NO chance of traffic coming into play.
Police on scene & ambulance on scene. For all intents it IS a race track.
The focus is on the cars & the racing, (who wins) NOT where it takes place.
elvis
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Correct. And if you look at the "street" that they mainly use, it is a ground surface also.
If this is the case, and I believe it is.....why not get rid of the charade and just run them where they belong in the first place? Is the "outlaw" vibe, even if it's all contrived, really that important to the success of this show?
my friends call me Zappy
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Well what could they call it "Street Drags" ? Then we (the drag fans) would yell "THAT'S NOT DRAG RACING" like we do when the news calls a accident
on the street a "DRAG RACING" crash.
on the street a "DRAG RACING" crash.
Nick Name
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NHRA and track operators are always trying to please insurance companies. With the lawyer problem we have, they have no choice. That is how we wound up with the walls at track, etc. My best friend was killed at an NHRA national event when he made contact with the opening in the wall for the crash trucks, etc. If he had been at Fremont or on Street Outlaws, he would be alive today.
Next are the rules that drive people away. Years ago nitrous was not allowed on motorcycles. Do you think ther bike guys too the nitrous off? Not when they could run on Sunday nights on Main St in South Central.. Or Tuesday nights on Glenoaks in the valley.
There is way too much BS in the NHRA today and they are not, or never will, be in the position to un-BS themselves. It has to just go away.
The young people today could care less about nitro cars, 6 second dragsters that have a contraption on them that makes them run in the 8, etc.
Grudge / Street Outlaws type racing is the future, because these young people can actually do it. Drag racing is not going away, it is just going to be radically changed. As someone else stated here; when they run the episode of SA with the crash, it will outdraw the entire NHRA season on TV. Time to wake up folks.
Next are the rules that drive people away. Years ago nitrous was not allowed on motorcycles. Do you think ther bike guys too the nitrous off? Not when they could run on Sunday nights on Main St in South Central.. Or Tuesday nights on Glenoaks in the valley.
There is way too much BS in the NHRA today and they are not, or never will, be in the position to un-BS themselves. It has to just go away.
The young people today could care less about nitro cars, 6 second dragsters that have a contraption on them that makes them run in the 8, etc.
Grudge / Street Outlaws type racing is the future, because these young people can actually do it. Drag racing is not going away, it is just going to be radically changed. As someone else stated here; when they run the episode of SA with the crash, it will outdraw the entire NHRA season on TV. Time to wake up folks.
Huge
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You know that, and i know that, but a lot of the younger generation may not know that. They make it look like they are trying to get the race over before the cops arrive.
stitcherbob
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Back when the NHRA was created, what could the street racers possibly wring from their cars? Even in the Sixties, what were they running? 10's ? In the Seventies...maybe dipping into the 9's? Or am I being too generous?
Today it seems any goof can build a turboed or nitroused unruly 6 second monster capable of killing not only the driver and spectators, but our sport as well.....
Today it seems any goof can build a turboed or nitroused unruly 6 second monster capable of killing not only the driver and spectators, but our sport as well.....
