turbo ken
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More Street Outlaws Insanity
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Larry
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Guys I started Racing on a Airport Runways in several towns before I ever saw a dedicated drag strip . , Carlsbad N M , Corpus Christi Tx . both were runways . The Street Outlaws Claim to be the fastest street race cars is correct because even though the street is blocked off for the shoot it's still a street by day used for traffic hence a street .
Call me crazy, but I'd rather see actual street legal and street driven cars grudge racing at a drag strip. I think Hot Rod's Drag Week, and the old Fastest Street Car Shootout, are/were incredible showcases of the baddest street cars in the country.
Oh, and did anybody else see that Mike Murillo totaled his Mustang the other night?
http://www.mustangandfords.com/news...lved-in-scary-wreck-at-no-prep-race-edinburg/
Oh, and did anybody else see that Mike Murillo totaled his Mustang the other night?
http://www.mustangandfords.com/news...lved-in-scary-wreck-at-no-prep-race-edinburg/
Nick Name
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Guard rail victim. Curb would have probably got him too.
Jimbo
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Street racing was very popular back in the 60's and in those day's it was very common to have many cars show up on trailers and once I even saw a dragster make a pass.
These races would have a thousand people standing and just watching and there were many times I kept looking over my shoulder thinking the cops must be coming at some point to stop it.
It was really crazy before they stepped in and shut it down for good.
Jimbo
These races would have a thousand people standing and just watching and there were many times I kept looking over my shoulder thinking the cops must be coming at some point to stop it.
It was really crazy before they stepped in and shut it down for good.
Jimbo
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Notice the seat tabs and seat are still in their proper places. That's how you build a chassis.
I don't want to get too far off topic from the OP here, but I do have a question that I wanted to pose on these recent accidents with the Outlaw-type cars at no-prep and street races:
Could having a shorter wheelbase on these types of cars be part of the problem? Murillo runs a Mustang, and the "Chuckie" car that took out Big Chief was also a Mustang. I'd have to think that the "Goliath" Chevy II also had a fairly short wheelbase, similar to the Fox-Body Mustangs. With the inherent lack of traction in this type of racing, I'd think you'd want as long a wheelbase as possible to help control the car.
Could having a shorter wheelbase on these types of cars be part of the problem? Murillo runs a Mustang, and the "Chuckie" car that took out Big Chief was also a Mustang. I'd have to think that the "Goliath" Chevy II also had a fairly short wheelbase, similar to the Fox-Body Mustangs. With the inherent lack of traction in this type of racing, I'd think you'd want as long a wheelbase as possible to help control the car.
stitcherbob
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It's short wheelbases coupled with enormous violent power....when people wanted to go faster they graduated from full doorslammers to Funny Cars....safer and lighter with more wheelbase and less suspension than a stock bodied car.
Now they are trying to put 2000+ hp into a (highly modified) Detroit car and using turbos which put the power surge part-way into the run, instead of just blowing the tires off at the start. It's like putting a blown Hemi into your old Radio Flyer wagon now....it can be done but it's exceeding the limits by a bunch
Now they are trying to put 2000+ hp into a (highly modified) Detroit car and using turbos which put the power surge part-way into the run, instead of just blowing the tires off at the start. It's like putting a blown Hemi into your old Radio Flyer wagon now....it can be done but it's exceeding the limits by a bunch
Great read ... Hats off to Mr. Aronson for speaking his mind. This is a horribly sad story all around.
Paul, you give the youth of today a bit too much credit. Overall yes, I agree with you. I am the father of an 18 yo male, he gets it. BUT,there is that fearless faction that truly believe they can do, say, and act as they want regardless of others opinion without understanding (or caring) about the associated risks.
My son tells me stories about what he sees going on in his peer group, and he mocks them for it. They seem to have a general disrespect for what goes on around them and seek thrills without any fear of potential consequences. I firmly believe they look at the Outlaws show as cool, while seeking to experience the same thrills potentially at the expense of innocent peoples lives.
http://www.competitionplus.com/drag...-drag-racer-fired-up-about-glorifying-illegal
my friends call me Zappy
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As a kid you raced on the real public streets, so did I. And we didn't have the TV show to blame. But that wouldn't make for an interesting TV show. Why ? because you & I didn't race high HP 8 second cars. That is why the show is interesting, wheelstands, fire out the pipes, ect. The same stuff we watch the PRO's race on TV for. Then they weave in the lame top 10 list story to fill time. It's entertainment, no more - no less. And it must be popular because they announced a "spin off" coming early next year. "Outlaws New Orleans" or something?
The kids know it isn't real public streets. They know "super girl" can't really fly, they know the cop didn't really shoot the bad guy.
I just feel blaming illegal street racing on a TV show is wrong. Folks have to take responsibility for their actions. "THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT" only worked for Flip Wilson.
The kids know it isn't real public streets. They know "super girl" can't really fly, they know the cop didn't really shoot the bad guy.
I just feel blaming illegal street racing on a TV show is wrong. Folks have to take responsibility for their actions. "THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT" only worked for Flip Wilson.
Not blaming ... but it is highly influential. Trust me. Do not be that naïve, there is a different culture in today's youth.
Paul I hate to disagree with you but actually back in the late 50s to middle 60s here in Oklahoma City we used to meet on Friday or Saturday night at Carp's drive-in where anywhere from 50 to 200 cars would show up to arrange races. There was everything from altered's to grocery getters. Some burned methanol, a few would show up with nitro burners and most burned gas Some had blowers and many were trailered. Lots of money changed hands as did a few vehicles on occasion. Raced on a mile long I-35 service road (for example) that was blocked off at both ends by parked cars (not legally). So you see street racing in the 405 has a long and mostly proud tradition.
Huge
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Paul, there is a big difference from when we did it and now. We didn't have near the horsepower back then, or near the amount of traffic that there is today. Plus we would race on an old road away from town. Now days they will race weaving in and out of traffic on a very, very busy freeway right through the middle of any major city.
stitcherbob
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on the show, the racing is more and more being shown as segregated from the streets, but the segments with the Farmtruck and Dungbeetle fishing for street races outside the 405 list is the most illegal racing portrayed on the show
Jimbo
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Just my opinion but the show really is not the image that professional drag racing wants to see every week on TV
It one of those things that yes we know it goes on but we don't really want to see it on TV.
Jim Hill
http://www.nostalgicracingdecals.com
It one of those things that yes we know it goes on but we don't really want to see it on TV.
Jim Hill
http://www.nostalgicracingdecals.com
I think with the unveiling of Big Chief's new "Crowmod", the whole premise of "street outlaws" has officially jumped the shark. I don't know how anybody could think running a Pro Mod car on the street is a good idea, or a sensible thing to do. Or for that matter, believable.
cantdrive55
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Kye Kelly advertises his car as a Pro Mod Camaro, and John Doe appears to be an early 90's Pro Stock Oldsmobile. And they had an episode where two Pro Mod's raced Chuck and the El Camino. I think her name is Tina, she had a Pro Stock Truck. Daddy Dave raced what looked like a Pro Mod C5 'Vette on the season finale. The only illegal activity is when Farmtruck and Azn go "fishing" and when the others do test hits. I don't agree with it, but they're doing it. Personally I'd rather see them run 1/8th or 1/4 mile at a local track. Go barnstorming to all the local tracks like Snake, Jungle, Mongoose, Big Daddy, and TV Tommy used to do. Make a hell of a profit at the same time. And hopefully keep knuckleheads from racing on the streets so that people don't have to worry about getting t-boned by some dumbass who's driving / "drag racing" on a suspended license.
