Raconteur
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Military Sponsorships on Chopping Block?
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Do you really, really, believe Newman Haas' claim that last year more than 46,000 recruits enlisted because of Nascar sponsorship? I don't.
mick
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i will not disagree with you - if my first post on this topic i mentioned that
the amounts spent in motorsports adv't. could be a target
for trimming..........regarding your wishes for additional funds
for veterans, i hope you're rite.
Raconteur
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Where did you find YOUR recruiting figures to refute their claim?
elvis
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Good gawd, mellow out. Anybody who has served in a war never gets paid enough as far as I'm concerned. Geez... The Army uses sponsorship as a recruitment tool. It is a necessary evil. Nobody likes it coming out of their taxes, but it is for sustainment purposes.
Are you serious?
That claim can not be quantified.
And, if it could be, do we really, really, really want a fighting machine that is based on decisions surrounding watching race cars?
"Geepers, Mom, Dad, I wasn't really sure what I wanted to do for a career, but Ryan Newman won at Bristol, so I guess I will join the Army."
If anything, the promise of schooling, the economy and lack of jobs, and civic duty have far more to do with enlistment than watching a race car does.
Is there anyone on this forum that can explain how to reason with Moon? For crying out loud, even being respectful doesn't work.
First, let's debunk one of your statements, Moon, that Newman Haas is claiming 46,000 new recruits as a direct result of US Army sponsorship involvement in NASCAR racing. Here's what he actually said, spin man...
"Last year alone, the U.S. Army's motorsports programs generated more than 46,000 qualified [recruiting] leads."
Your turn.
Raconteur
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Carl, thanks for pointing that out, for those who do not understand a term like LEAD Generation, there's a good definition from WikiPedia...
"Lead generation is a marketing term that refers to the creation or generation of prospective consumer interest or inquiry into products or services of a business."
Tom
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Well, since it bothers you so much that YOUR MONEY (selfish remark that that is) is being spent on racing, you DO have a choice. You can quit paying taxes to the US Government all together. It's your right. You can move to another country and tell us all to kiss you where it smells funny. But when the sh-- hits the fan in your new third world home, you'll be damned glad to see the US Army come save your tail.
Tom
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How many times are you going to say the same thing over and over and over and over, and over?
I always wanted a parrot.
Crash
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Oh yeah, I forgot about all the private industry sponsors on the waiting list to sponsor a team.....
jackass
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Actualy its Stewart Haas... and i do believe it.. i know several of the people that work the Army hospitality at the events and many that attend are new recruits.. as well as returning soldiers who were wounded or earned a metal or two as insperation to to the new recruits.. i believe that the ARMY also has recruiting tables set up at many events also... so that would be a great way to account for the numbers ...
OH food for thought...lol... if part of the budget she wants cut might effect Dale Jrs team as well.. you know ARMY National Gaurd... if that gets cut.. that lady has had a bad day....lol...
finial thought.. if the ARMY sponsrship of NASCAR or NHRA or any other sporting event is not doing any good for the ARMY.. then why should any other company sponsor any of those as well..... you dont advertise where its not going to help effect your bottom line weither its for profits or for recruiting..
Billy
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Let's really cut to the chase here, $5-20 million is a drop in the bucket of defense/federal spending, you can't even buy one jet for that. So its an easy polical grandstand to try and cut money that is being used to sustain the military force stucture and connect with the public as opposed to cutting corporate welfare or ending pork barrel earmarks and white elephant projects. It makes them look like fiscal hawks, while not really looking soft on defense or saving any real money. Both sides of the aisle are eyeing decreasing veteran's benefits, increasing out of pocket healthcare costs for retirees, and trying to roll back retirement benefits. We're talking tens of millions in a budget of hundreds of billions against a debt in the trillions. Oh yeah I like NPR and PBS because I like information not infotainment.
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how many times are you going to say the same thing over and over and over and over, and over?
I always wanted a parrot.
lmao!!
Thanks to whomever for putting this thread back on the board. I complained, properly, about it being suddenly secreted away, and the explanation given is still fuzzy in my addled mind. But it's also proper to give praise for the thread's review and prompt return. Fair is fair. 
So you are cool with subsidizing failures?
Thats my tax dollars too.
Maybe the current owner of the that sponsorship should look around. I think he knows Trick Tank is off limits, not that he wouldn't try to undercut to get a sponsorship (that is his MO anyway)
Why does he need government assistance to go racing? He can afford it.
So when private industry fails, look to the government?
Rhetorical question. Ok, Greg, you're in charge. Let's say the proposal passes and military racing sponsorships are defunded. And there is a chance that could happen. What would you do with the saved money?
Not a trick question. My answer is don't use it for anything. Simply don't print it or borrow it, therefore not adding to the national debt at all.
Yours?
Not a trick question. My answer is don't use it for anything. Simply don't print it or borrow it, therefore not adding to the national debt at all.
Yours?
I have a first name, ya know.
Lets just say 3 million a year is spent on the NHRA program.How many times are you going to say the same thing over and over and over and over, and over?
I always wanted a parrot.
10 years at 3 mil. 30 million? Yeah, I have a problem with that.
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