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Injected Nitro FC - which races did they run? (1 Viewer)

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Doesn't sound fair to me either, Mike, but one or the other will likely have to adjust. Sounds like NHRA went after the AFCs. Maybe that's the best solution although looking at it through the eyes of someone who's never campaigned one of these cars I still like my idea better if for no other reason than it steps up the performance. Personal preference, of course. I'll watch 'em either way; I love both TAFC and TAD.

You race a class with both blown alcohol and injected nitro; you tell me.
 
After watching a pretty embarrassing spectacle of short fields since before covid, NHRA had to do something. If nitro is less complex and less expensive (until it isn't🔥), I think it might lead to bigger fields. The A/F cars have been a real plus to TAD.
 
True. Last year, only 1 race had a full tafc field (Dallas). Blown car counts are down. Afuelers being added makes sense. Blown guys may be unsettled after Gainesville. Let's see how things go when it gets hot in a month or 2.
 
Congratulations NHRA you have now just taken away AGAIN from some great crew chiefs to be true genius's in making a class better for the spectator in my opinion. They have now dropped the Injected cars to 91.5% Nitro, welcome to bracket racing 101. There is no longer the type of crew chief's like Armstrong, Coil. ETC ETC. who used their brains and came up with many great ideas. everything is now all spec in top fuel FC AND TF. it Is now also bracket racing in my opinion. just turn valves. times have changed from my days in racing, Sad 😔
Larry Sutton---🤠
 
Congratulations NHRA you have now just taken away AGAIN from some great crew chiefs to be true genius's in making a class better for the spectator in my opinion. They have now dropped the Injected cars to 91.5% Nitro, welcome to bracket racing 101. There is no longer the type of crew chief's like Armstrong, Coil. ETC ETC. who used their brains and came up with many great ideas. everything is now all spec in top fuel FC AND TF. it Is now also bracket racing in my opinion. just turn valves. times have changed from my days in racing, Sad 😔
Larry Sutton---🤠
Larry, I really miss the dry hops and the looks given to each other during that time, great for the fans, now they put them on the starting line like a slot car, I know that’s how it’s done now for various mechanical consistency needs, just not as much fun to watch for me, where’s my Time Machine, those were the days
 
Congratulations NHRA you have now just taken away AGAIN from some great crew chiefs to be true genius's in making a class better for the spectator in my opinion. They have now dropped the Injected cars to 91.5% Nitro, welcome to bracket racing 101. There is no longer the type of crew chief's like Armstrong, Coil. ETC ETC. who used their brains and came up with many great ideas. everything is now all spec in top fuel FC AND TF. it Is now also bracket racing in my opinion. just turn valves. times have changed from my days in racing, Sad 😔
Larry Sutton---🤠
Not sure what the answer is. Comments I've read seem to indicate that speeding up the alky cars will just add more costs to an already costly combo. Playing with nitro % seems to be the path of least resistance, it worked for the dragsters. Yes there are more A/FDs than blown alky cars, but the past few years I've noticed an increase in blower cars. And, on average, they run pretty close in performance. If the alky FCs have to spend more to speed up, then we'll definitely be defeating the purpose of having the A/F option added. Time will tell.
 
Larry, I really miss the dry hops and the looks given to each other during that time, great for the fans, now they put them on the starting line like a slot car, I know that’s how it’s done now for various mechanical consistency needs, just not as much fun to watch for me, where’s my Time Machine, those were the days
Here is your Time Machine. Dry hops and that guy in the black cowboy hat.

 
I'm reading comments about how some think speeding up the alky cars will increase the cost to run them. I ran 125% over back when it was legal up to 2000, and continued to run after 2001, the first year they slowed the overdrive down. Reducing boost actually increased the cost because you had to rev the crap out of them to make any power. Rods, valve train, crank life took a hit. I don't believe increasing overdrive will significantly increase the cost to run. Combos for higher boost are already available. Speaking from experience.
 
I'm reading comments about how some think speeding up the alky cars will increase the cost to run them. I ran 125% over back when it was legal up to 2000, and continued to run after 2001, the first year they slowed the overdrive down. Reducing boost actually increased the cost because you had to rev the crap out of them to make any power. Rods, valve train, crank life took a hit. I don't believe increasing overdrive will significantly increase the cost to run. Combos for higher boost are already available. Speaking from experience.
Very good point, Randy👍
 
Not sure what the answer is. Comments I've read seem to indicate that speeding up the alky cars will just add more costs to an already costly combo. Playing with nitro % seems to be the path of least resistance, it worked for the dragsters.
What I want to hear is a former or current TAFC competitor tell me exactly what expenses are involved in changing the blower OD, say, from 92% over (screw) to 120% over. Are we talking the cost of some new pulleys and belts, recalibrating the fuel system and clutch settings, or some sort of massive undertaking?

OK, looks like Randy already answered. He'd know; I'm with him.

It's all speculation anyway. We already know what NHRA did. So if you're gonna run AFC go you run 3.20+ gearing or 3.19 and taller? Those are the choices you have.
 
Back when TAFC ran 125 od the rpm was no where near what it is today. When it was dropped to 92% everyone added rpm to get some of the boost back. If they go back to 125% 10k plus with what 15 lbs more. Boost. it’ll get way more costly. Gear ratios, fuel pumps/system. Basically a complete revamp of your combo. If I was still driving I’d like it cause I just want to go fast. But for a class that’s already extremely expensive and struggling to get participation, not a great idea.
 
I stated earlier that times have changed from my days of drag racing. for a good laugh today Google MODERN BIG MONEY DRAG RACERS VS THE GOLDEN AGE OF RACING. it was a story I did at Gibbs birthday day celebration at the NHRA museum. I can't post it but you will get a good laugh. Enjoy
Larry Sutton---🤠
 
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