I would of loved to see Johnny punch Cruz

[sdwarf36]

""Just like Eddie's comment about yellowbullet forum helping him win. what
was that about ?""

I think the comment was more along the line of "thanks for the people of YB rooting for me thru all the HD bashing.""
Thats ok-YB can have him. When Karen Stoffer wins a race, she'll be thanking Nitromater! Right? Gary you on this?

 

[SundayNiagara]

"Personally, I think Force is now doing more damage than good for the sport."

Even if I weren't a Force fan, I'd still think that was the most ridiculous statement I've ever read!

 

[rollingthunder]

That's a ridiculous statement to make about any team. If you don't like Force that's fine but don't mike asinine statements that drag racing is better-off when a major team that brings huge dollars and exposure to the sport loses.

I'm not saying this become I'm a Force fan. The same can be said for Al-Anabi, DSR or any other big team.

Statements like that make a person look foolish and childish.

I ll make any statement I like. Whether you agree or not. When ONE team dominates because they have all the cash and all the best parts. Hate to tell ya reality is not everyone worships the ground he walks on and worships at the guys feet. I know of alot of people that are drag racing fans that were and still are HIGHLY turned off by that. So i can make a statement like that. It would be like you walking into work. A co worker standing up and saying " I am the greatest person around and you people would be nothing without me." How long would you say oh its ok. He is a good guy and he is helping us out at work.

 

[Buns]

I ll make any statement I like. Whether you agree or not. When ONE team dominates because they have all the cash and all the best parts. Hate to tell ya reality is not everyone worships the ground he walks on and worships at the guys feet. I know of alot of people that are drag racing fans that were and still are HIGHLY turned off by that. So i can make a statement like that. It would be like you walking into work. A co worker standing up and saying " I am the greatest person around and you people would be nothing without me." How long would you say oh its ok. He is a good guy and he is helping us out at work.

Where would the NHRA be without JFR, DSR, Al-Anabi, KB Motorsports, etc.?

And Kalitta Motorsports has as much money as any other team. So change your avatar if you hate teams that "have all the cash and all the best parts."

You and the people you know can like it or dislike it but the reality is the landscape of the NHRA would be quite different without mega teams. And not in a good way.

 

[MW]

Mark, I agree that JF is a great spokeman for drag racing, great with the fans etc..., but also agree with George. My reasoning has nothing to do with him personally, but the influence he has on the NHRA decision makers. IMO JFR has been the number 1 factor in the outrageous costs of nitro racing. Starting way back with the setback blower JFR has implemented (with NHRA's immediate approval) changes that have driven owners out of the sport. IMO JFR is at the front line of resistance to tone the cars down, and return them to the traditional quarter mile distance. I understand that they don't want to trash years of data, but if the cars were scaled back and not needing to gobble up multiple parts each and every pass maybe the direction of the sport could head back in the right direction. The Forces, DSR's, AJ's of the world will still be the teams to beat, but maybe more teams could come into the sport if it was feasable to be competitive. There are over 100 Nostalgia Nitro cars running in the US, and if NHRA would scale back the rules I would bet that quite a few would step right up and build a "Big Show" car. Say what you want, but folks (racers AND fans) are not showing up for whatever reason (1000', economy, bored or a combo), and NHRA needs to grow a pair, not be influenced by a few, and bring back this once great sport.

 

[SundayNiagara]

Mark, I agree that JF is a great spokeman for drag racing, great with the fans etc..., but also agree with George. My reasoning has nothing to do with him personally, but the influence he has on the NHRA decision makers. IMO JFR has been the number 1 factor in the outrageous costs of nitro racing. Starting way back with the setback blower JFR has implemented (with NHRA's immediate approval) changes that have driven owners out of the sport. IMO JFR is at the front line of resistance to tone the cars down, and return them to the traditional quarter mile distance. I understand that they don't want to trash years of data, but if the cars were scaled back and not needing to gobble up multiple parts each and every pass maybe the direction of the sport could head back in the right direction. The Forces, DSR's, AJ's of the world will still be the teams to beat, but maybe more teams could come into the sport if it was feasable to be competitive. There are over 100 Nostalgia Nitro cars running in the US, and if NHRA would scale back the rules I would bet that quite a few would step right up and build a "Big Show" car. Say what you want, but folks (racers AND fans) are not showing up for whatever reason (1000', economy, bored or a combo), and NHRA needs to grow a pair, not be influenced by a few, and bring back this once great sport.

Do you remember when Force had nothing & was called, "Cheeseburger?" I do!

 

[Silly Savage]

I could not agree more...

x3.....

 

[George.]

Mark, I agree that JF is a great spokeman for drag racing, great with the fans etc..., but also agree with George. My reasoning has nothing to do with him personally, but the influence he has on the NHRA decision makers. IMO JFR has been the number 1 factor in the outrageous costs of nitro racing. Starting way back with the setback blower JFR has implemented (with NHRA's immediate approval) changes that have driven owners out of the sport. IMO JFR is at the front line of resistance to tone the cars down, and return them to the traditional quarter mile distance. I understand that they don't want to trash years of data, but if the cars were scaled back and not needing to gobble up multiple parts each and every pass maybe the direction of the sport could head back in the right direction. The Forces, DSR's, AJ's of the world will still be the teams to beat, but maybe more teams could come into the sport if it was feasable to be competitive. There are over 100 Nostalgia Nitro cars running in the US, and if NHRA would scale back the rules I would bet that quite a few would step right up and build a "Big Show" car. Say what you want, but folks (racers AND fans) are not showing up for whatever reason (1000', economy, bored or a combo), and NHRA needs to grow a pair, not be influenced by a few, and bring back this once great sport.

Exactly!

 

[George.]

Do you remember when Force had nothing & was called, "Cheeseburger?" I do!

Please stop kissing the ass of John Force. There are a ton of rags to riches stories in this world. Riches do not designate one "king".
JF has gained and deserves our respect for what he has accomplished, it doesn't mean his efforts haven't ruined parts of the sport we see today for self serving reasons.

Read Mark's post again...slowly.

 

[Toejam]

Ummmmmmmmmm I don't ****ing think so Jon try again lol

Hey Lynn, what would you do if one of the Ped bros. won a race, then somehow got your number and called you to gloat about it? LOL...

 

[rollingthunder]

Where would the NHRA be without JFR, DSR, Al-Anabi, KB Motorsports, etc.?

And Kalitta Motorsports has as much money as any other team. So change your avatar if you hate teams that "have all the cash and all the best parts."

You and the people you know can like it or dislike it but the reality is the landscape of the NHRA would be quite different without mega teams. And not in a good way.

See there ya go again. Assuming I hate big teams. You assume. My problem is with The John Force attitude. So when you can get facts straight we can carry on this disagreement.

 

[rollingthunder]

Do you remember when Force had nothing & was called, "Cheeseburger?" I do!

My dad can remember when he had nothing but hard dry bread and mustard to eat growing up. So he did well for himself. Where is his ticker tape parade ?

 

[Buns]

When ONE team dominates because they have all the cash and all the best parts.

See there ya go again. Assuming I hate big teams. You assume. My problem is with The John Force attitude. So when you can get facts straight we can carry on this disagreement.

I don't see anything regarding JFR's attitude in your previous post. That statement can be applied to any big, dominant team.

 

[Rajunz]

Don Schumacher came back to the sport with only a one car team, the Exide dragster, mainly because his son wanted to do this full time. He saw an opportunity to bring in sponsors and grow the team so that it can sustain itself as its own business. Because he's a smarter business man than others out there, he's ruining the sport? Give me a frickin break.

 

[Paul]

My dad can remember when he had nothing but hard dry bread and mustard to eat growing up. So he did well for himself. Where is his ticker tape parade ?

When I started working when I was 15 I had nothing and since then I have done pretty well for myself, where's my parade?

 

[SundayNiagara]

Please stop kissing the ass of John Force. There are a ton of rags to riches stories in this world. Riches do not designate one "king".
JF has gained and deserves our respect for what he has accomplished, it doesn't mean his efforts haven't ruined parts of the sport we see today for self serving reasons.

Read Mark's post again...slowly.

Force is the best thing that's ever happened to drag racing. He has the best mouth in ALL of motorsports AND, the whole damn world knows who he is.

 

[Buns]

Don Schumacher came back to the sport with only a one car team, the Exide dragster, mainly because his son wanted to do this full time. He saw an opportunity to bring in sponsors and grow the team so that it can sustain itself as its own business. Because he's a smarter business man than others out there, he's ruining the sport? Give me a frickin break.

There are those on this board who feel that any big team that has done well for itself should be chastised and condemned for "ruining" the sport.

 

[SundayNiagara]

There are those on this board who feel that any big team that has done well for itself should be chastised and condemned for "ruining" the sport.

These fanboys/groupies/drag queens won't like you Bernie, you actually make sense!

 

[Buns]

These fanboys/groupies/drag queens won't like you Bernie, you actually make sense!

Right?

I'm sure a sport where ingenuity, growth, expansion and success are frowned upon, will attract tons of sponsors in the future!

Sheesh...

 

[cdag]

Don Schumacher came back to the sport with only a one car team, the Exide dragster, mainly because his son wanted to do this full time. He saw an opportunity to bring in sponsors and grow the team so that it can sustain itself as its own business. Because he's a smarter business man than others out there, he's ruining the sport? Give me a frickin break.

Agreed. Come to think of it, I can't think of anyone participating in this sport, from the weekend bracket racer to DSR, who is ruining the sport.