Capps rumor???

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I don't know didn't see that. I sure don't know the facts just thought that interview would be good because it comes from people involved rather then speculation.

The statement was made during the Finals qualifying show and he appeared to be quite proud of the statement.

I have already deleted it from my dvr or I would post it. Here is a link to the other topic that I posted about don s. statement then read the following one.

I don't know all the facts either but when don s. stated it on ESPN, I took his word on it, shouldn't everyone else?

 

[Mooseman]

I don't know all the facts either but when don s. stated it on ESPN, I took his word on it, shouldn't everyone else?

I don't know I wouldn't feel right saying bad things about Don without knowing all the facts I am only a fan so not involved so not my business.

 

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I don't know I wouldn't feel right saying bad things about Don without knowing all the facts I am only a fan so not involved so not my business.

William, I'm trying to understand what you posted. Don s. said it was his decision to dump Cory and repeating that is saying bad things about him?

And I think you made it your business when you posted this:

You guys who think it was Schumachers doing with the whole Cory thing need to listen to the Cory Mac interview on this site real facts from the horses mouth.

I'm not trying to belittle or start an argument with you, I understand that when a fan hears something bad about who they are a fan of, it is sometimes difficult to fully comprehend and believe.

All I am saying is, take don s. on his word, HE DUMPED CORY!

 

[Mooseman]

I didn't know that Schumacher had said anything so that was news to me so decided best bet is to say nothing because I really don't know anything about it so why should I get myself involved in it. The old if you don't have anything worth saying don't say anyhting deal.

Don is a member on this forum and used to be a reguler poster he was allways nice to me so why should I say bad things about him. The inner workings at DSR are not public info so who knows what really happened there. I sure don't.

 

[Rat]

The inner workings at DSR are not public info so who knows what really happened there. I sure don't.

that's the best quote about it, if drag racing was openly public business we would know to THE PENNY what everyone makes and who gets what. Why can't all the bad talkers of dsr just realize two things:

1. RESPECT THE PRIVACY, IF YOUR BOSS MAKES AN ACTION ON A CO-WORKER, ARE YOU GONNA TALK CRAP AND SPREAD IT AROUND WHEN IT WILL NEVER BE TRULY KNOWN TO THE PARTIES NOT INVOLVED?. OF COURSE CORY IS GONNA BE MAD, YOU CAN'T TAKE HIS WORD FOR TRUTH AT ALL, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME SPITE, I'LL TAKE DON'S WORD ON THIS CAUSE BUSINESS IT WHAT IT LOGICALLY, YES LOGICALLY COMES DOWN TO. COMMON SENSE!

2. IF I WAS DON I WOULD BE WONDERING WHY I'M ON THIS SITE WHEN ALL I GET IS BAD MOUTHED. HE'S DONE NOTHING WRONG. I AM NOT DEFENDING ANYONE. HE'S IN THE BUSINESS OF RACING. HE'S NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF PERSONAL, AND YET IT'S ALL DONE PROFESSIONALLY TO OUR PUBLIC EYE. TO FORM THESE OPINIONS ABOUT THINGS WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT AND TO JUDGE IS NOT TO BRIGHT.

Cory was taken out of the seat due to BUSINESS AND PURE ECONOMICS. He did not take cory out because he had a bad day or hated cory. IT WAS NOT PERSONAL SO WHY IS EVERYONE BLAMING DSR FOR MAKING IT PERSONAL? It's crystal clear common sense why cory was let go.

Here's an oddball logic that may align with some of you guys:

Did Old Spice Stop Sponsoring Mike Neff Because They Hated Him?

 

[Mooseman]

Thanks for your post but regarding your comment on Cory being mad well I don't know about that, thats why I posted that interview with him because in the interview Cory has nothing but nice things to say about Don.

 

[Rat]

Thanks for your post but regarding your comment on Cory being mad well I don't know about that, thats why I posted that interview with him because in the interview Cory has nothing but nice things to say about Don.

i know. but you know on both sides of the coin we will never know how much words are forced and buttered in public eye and different behind closed doors. I say it's business and it should be no different that any other hire/fire/let go any other drag racing silly season.

 

[jackass]

Alot of times a sponsor will pressure a team owner to make a change of some kind and a team owner will take the heat.. better for people to hate him than the company sponsoring the team... better for the team an the sponsors bottom line... $$$$$.. just the way it works.....


i will add... usualy its a team not performing that gets pressured by the sponsor and they ask for some change in the team... mainly because the driver is involved with alot of their promos...crew guys.. mainly crew chiefs are easier to change........ in this case i'm not sure how much Cory was a face for Fram...and they were performing.. at least i thought so...


Billy

 

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I'm not sure what's so hard to figure out. This is about making money and hoisting trophies at year's end and that is IT. I shall explain.

In the beginning, Cory brings Fram and himself to Don; Cory gets a championship team and race car and a nice salary; Fram gets major exposure, so does DSR; Fram has deep pockets which means money in the bank for Schumacher, thanks to a 3+million dollar sponsorship. A BUSINESS decision on everyone's part and everyone is happy.

Enter 2010. Don knows his 3.75 racecar has the right stuff. Well, it places third, partially due to Cory's occasional erratic starting-line reaction times. Not good, if you're DSR. But the car is going rounds, still getting plenty of exposure and the Fram suits may not completely understand a reaction-time defeat. Besides, Cory Mac is a household name and he did win a lot more than he lost. So, Fram is still happy and happy sponsor is a good thing. But most likely unknown to them, the team owner ain't quite so happy.

Enter Spencer Massey, presumably with Gene Snow's money (not quite sure where he fits in), 20 years younger, bright, talented, good with the media and with money in hand. So, if you're Schumacher, do you keep what you have, a good but aging driver that still has a fine pedigree and a lot to offer - or do you replace him and speculate with this young stud holding a fistful of dollars? Yep. It's business.

You present your case to Fram and convince them the younger demographic is the way to go, and Spencer can indeed chop down a tree. So, Fram gets a new young pilot in the same championship-caliber car, same max exposure, DSR gets the same plus a bunch of money to boot - and again, everyone is happy...well, other than Cory. It's BUSINESS, you know.

As for Ron Capps, NAPA and his 3 year extension? No doubt NAPA made Don an offer he couldn't refuse. Again, business. If a different driver/sponsor offered significantly more, Ron Capps would be looking for a job. It's business.

And Don Schumacher is in the business of making money and winning championships. Everything else, and I mean everything, takes a back seat. There is no loyalty. Friendships mean nothing when the light turns green. Money - and championships, pure and simple. And we that sit here and talk about it all either condone how he runs his operation, or we loathe it. But it is what it is.

Myself? I don't know a great deal but I'll bet a dollar to a donut I didn't miss this call by much. But in my opinion, there's life beyond money and championships. I can replace money. I can't replace lost relationships and I can't afford to lose any. Not that I'd mind a bit more money, and maybe just ONE championship trophy.

 

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Can't figure out why some on here are in denial, don s. said on ESPN, and he knew that it would be aired, that HE decided to dump Cory.

That was AFTER the press release that said it was Fram's decision.

And now because I believe what don s. said and not the press release, I am bad mouthing him?

Like I stated before:
Looks to me like drag racing is being prostituted for a quick buck.

And some on here appear to be ok with that.

 

[Mooseman]

And now because I believe what don s. said and not the press release, I am bad mouthing him?

Like I stated before:
Looks to me like drag racing is being prostituted for a quick buck.

And some on here appear to be ok with that.[/COLOR]

I am not in denial I don't believe you are bad mouthing anybody and as for the money thing well thats nothing new. Its like being employed in a business. After you said that Don had said what he said I decided to say nothing as not knowing the inner workings at DSR its a little hard to say what happened. I am not saying Don didn't make the choice but if he did then there would have been a reason why and all the inner business workings and contracts and stuff regarding grounds for dismissal are not known by those who arent involved.

It just is how it is whether you like it or not. I have been let go from business before in jobs I have had doesnt mean I have any hard feelings its just what they thought was best for their business.

 

[clwill]

Looks to me like drag racing is being prostituted for a quick buck.

That began shortly after the first two people ever said "I bet I can beat you from a standing start to a quarter-mile", and has only escalated since. Now that millions of dollars are involved, some of you naively think it should still be some sort of gentleman's sport ala lawn bowling? Have you been paying attention to professional sports, business, or politics over the last 30 years? Money screws up priorities, get over it.

 

[megadeth]

I just traded Text messages with RON Capps, he just got back from Indy where he shot some of the 2011 NAPA commercials, he's scheduled to shoot in studio for a few more commercials in January... RON wants everyone to know he's OK and will be working with NAPA for the next three years and driving their NAPA sponsored funny car for DSR.

I hope there better commercials then the stupid ones that they had out last year!

 

[Bullard Anderson]

This may very well be the dumbest thread I've ever read on the Mater. Some ppl have no respect for what Shoe has done in the past and present. And doing so without the help of Espn2 face time each segment. Nobody.....Nobody on this board pulls against JFR on raceday (even qualifying) more than I do. But damn I respect JForce. The scene would look like Alice in Wonderland and Litte Red Riding Hood on an all day VISA on Rodeo Drive without Shoe, and for that much JFR. Yes Cory got let go. But geez hasnt Cory had one of the great runs in TF history? I don't feel sorry for a guy who was/is that successful. His age is a fact of business and life if thats the case. I guess this is the first time a aged winning veteran has been replaced by a young guy but at least Spencer has a better pedigree than some in the past. Shoe is the Evil Empire and I like it. And if you think Cory is done you probably still think that VHS copy of Dune is worth the $11.99 you bought it for.

 

[Mooseman]

This may very well be the dumbest thread I've ever read on the Mater. Some ppl have no respect for what Shoe has done in the past and present. And doing so without the help of Espn2 face time each segment. Nobody.....Nobody on this board pulls against JFR on raceday (even qualifying) more than I do. But damn I respect JForce. The scene would look like Alice in Wonderland and Litte Red Riding Hood on an all day VISA on Rodeo Drive without Shoe, and for that much JFR. Yes Cory got let go. But geez hasnt Cory had one of the great runs in TF history? I don't feel sorry for a guy who was/is that successful. His age is a fact of business and life if thats the case. I guess this is the first time a aged winning veteran has been replaced by a young guy but at least Spencer has a better pedigree than some in the past. Shoe is the Evil Empire and I like it. And if you think Cory is done you probably still think that VHS copy of Dune is worth the $11.99 you bought it for.

Great post, the guys involved are not new to drag racing and they arent exactly dumb so I am sure what happened happend for a very good reason. I am also sure that it won't be the last we see of Cory Mac I am sure he will find some way to be out there in some occupation.

Oh and to not forget the original topic of this thread where would a rumour like that come from?

 

[shoe]

Some of you really make looking at this board painful. I have 100 plus DSR and DSM employees.

First, Ron is driving the NAPA car and where this rumor came from is really amazing but I guess some people just like to bash me.

I make changes in my operation for many reasons and no one on this board deserves or needs to know all of the facts. Why should I say anything negative about any of my employees or ex employees? I try to be positive in my comments about my people and I will always do that. I take responsibility for the things I do and I see no reason to push the responsibility in any other direction since it lands on my desk last, that is what happans because I am the last one to make the decision.

Some people on here have caused a lot of good owners, drivers and sponsors to not even look at this board anymore and really not comment about the threads and I am now one of them also. Have a ball and bash me all you want. I will continue to race and do the best I can for my sponsors, employees and NHRA.

 

[n/a]

Some of you really make looking at this board painful. I have 100 plus DSR and DSM employees.

First, Ron is driving the NAPA car and where this rumor came from is really amazing but I guess some people just like to bash me.

I make changes in my operation for many reasons and no one on this board deserves or needs to know all of the facts. Why should I say anything negative about any of my employees or ex employees? I try to be positive in my comments about my people and I will always do that. I take responsibility for the things I do and I see no reason to push the responsibility in any other direction since it lands on my desk last, that is what happans because I am the last one to make the decision.

Some people on here have caused a lot of good owners, drivers and sponsors to not even look at this board anymore and really not comment about the threads and I am now one of them also. Have a ball and bash me all you want. I will continue to race and do the best I can for my sponsors, employees and NHRA.

Nice work Don.Maybe this will put some of the keyboard crew chiefs to rest. You run a good ship,keep up the good work.

 

[S&M]

Some of you really make looking at this board painful. I have 100 plus DSR and DSM employees.

First, Ron is driving the NAPA car and where this rumor came from is really amazing but I guess some people just like to bash me.

I make changes in my operation for many reasons and no one on this board deserves or needs to know all of the facts. Why should I say anything negative about any of my employees or ex employees? I try to be positive in my comments about my people and I will always do that. I take responsibility for the things I do and I see no reason to push the responsibility in any other direction since it lands on my desk last, that is what happens because I am the last one to make the decision.

Some people on here have caused a lot of good owners, drivers and sponsors to not even look at this board anymore and really not comment about the threads and I am now one of them also. Have a ball and bash me all you want. I will continue to race and do the best I can for my sponsors, employees and NHRA.

Don,

Don't you know that people whom have never run a business know more about running a business than those that have? Just look at all of the experts in all levels of government.

Wishing you a great 2011.

 

[Bobby Bennett]

Some of you really make looking at this board painful. I have 100 plus DSR and DSM employees.

First, Ron is driving the NAPA car and where this rumor came from is really amazing but I guess some people just like to bash me.

I make changes in my operation for many reasons and no one on this board deserves or needs to know all of the facts. Why should I say anything negative about any of my employees or ex employees? I try to be positive in my comments about my people and I will always do that. I take responsibility for the things I do and I see no reason to push the responsibility in any other direction since it lands on my desk last, that is what happans because I am the last one to make the decision.

Some people on here have caused a lot of good owners, drivers and sponsors to not even look at this board anymore and really not comment about the threads and I am now one of them also. Have a ball and bash me all you want. I will continue to race and do the best I can for my sponsors, employees and NHRA.

A perfect response.

 

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That began shortly after the first two people ever said "I bet I can beat you from a standing start to a quarter-mile", and has only escalated since. Now that millions of dollars are involved, some of you naively think it should still be some sort of gentleman's sport ala lawn bowling? Have you been paying attention to professional sports, business, or politics over the last 30 years? Money screws up priorities, get over it.

I've been involved in drag racing in one form or another since 1965 and the buying a seat from under another driver, specially away from a championship contender, is fairly new.

I grew up in SoCal and attended Pomona, Irwindale, OCIR, Fontana, Lions, and other I can't remember right now, going as a minimum weekly, more often when I helped crew or ran my car.

When I wasn't at the track, I worked at a paint shop that specialized in FC's and TF's and talked to many drivers and owners and heard many stories but never about some driver buying a seat away from another driver, that was considered chicken-sh!t and would get your a$$ kicked.

Oh there were drivers fired, canned, dumped or whatever but that was because they were bad drivers.

Now days, it is not about the ability of a driver, but how much money can they bring in and that is just a sad state of affairs.

Drag racing has been a part of me for most of my life and it saddens me as to what it is being led to, I care more about the sport than some peoples involvement and will raise my voice when I see what I think is wrong for the sport.

Btw, money doesn't screw up anything, it is thirst for money by any means possible is what screws it up.

William, my comment was not aimed at you.