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Why a 7 PM Curfew?

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You're not alone John, but that's why zoning laws and city ordinances were established. If your scenario were true everywhere, a farmer could buy up land next to a beautiful custom home development and put in a hog farm-stinking up the entire place and ruining property values across the board. For that reason, I'm glad there are some measures in place. The real problem comes when the hog farmer of three decades gets shut down because some developer builds the custom home subdivision next to him and the incoming residents complain about the smell/property values. That's pretty much what Pomona is dealing with. Most of the most vocal opponents have lived there less than ten years.

I guess that would depend how it was zoned to start with. Build a custom home next farm land you better like the smell.
 
Still unless those folks have to plow the north 40 tomorrow 1900 seems a bit excessive.

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I don't think anyone can bear another monster thread on curfews. We all know there are several tracks with neighbor issues that have to abide by restrictions imposed by local government. Some others tracks that don't have problems still have taken a proactive approach to noise to avoid future issues with thier neighbors.

Bottom line, tax paying residents have a very loud collective voice and thier local politicians do what they need to in order to keep the peace.

Race fans cannot change that. Plus we are all biased because we are race fans ... right?
 
Race fans cannot change that. Plus we are all biased because we are race fans ... right?

EXACTILY!! I know for sure I'll put up with a LOT more noise then my neighbors would even consider because I love both aviation, and car racing. Thus, I'm MUCH more tolerant of airports and racetracks than most.
 
How about it gets too cold and damp to race safely after 7 PM-hell it was too cold when they sent the pro stock cars out in first round. Whatever happened to Dedicated to Safety?
 
EXACTILY!! I know for sure I'll put up with a LOT more noise then my neighbors would even consider because I love both aviation, and car racing. Thus, I'm MUCH more tolerant of airports and racetracks than most.

Would you put up with ANY noise? For example very loud music that happens to be a type you really don't like? How about a factory? etc.
 
I have always believed you should be able to do what ever you want with the land you own. If the people around you don't like it they should have three choices, buy you out, live with it, or move.

We run into this at Disneyland everynight we shoot fireworks. If we go 1 second over our 10:00 curfew we are in deep crap with the city as the local residents live to complain about how noisy our fireworks tend to be.

The fact that the park was built in 1955 in the middle of orange groves with no housing at the time seems to slip their minds, but we do whatever it takes to be good neighbors.
 
According to the Common Law Tort of Nuisance, it is no defence to say that the plaintiff came to the nuisance. I.e. you are entitled to buy a plot of land and "enjoy" it without suffering nuisance from your neighbours, even if they have been there forever and you have just shown up.

We sometimes hear of problems when townspeople move out to country villages and then complain about the church bells which locals have been ringing for the past four hundred years.

More worryingly, a long-serving circuit track in Yorkshire has recently been slapped with penal damages in a court ruling over its noise. Same story, and it's got everyone in motorsport concerned. I dare say Santa Pod can set the church bells ringing in surrounding villages without anyone pulling the ropes.
 
When I built my shop out here at the race track, the track was thrilled because we are a motorsports business. They have been so afraid that people would build out here and complain about the noise.

They bend over backwards for us.

Jay
 
1) The curfew comes from LaVerne, not Pomona. It allows racing engines only between 9:30a and 6:00p on Sunday. I've heard time and again about "negotiating" for extensions, but I've never heard of an extension being granted.

2) I've been told there are two old widows who live in LaVerne and complain every time the cars run (even sportsman cars) and are vocal at city council meetings. Rumor has it NHRA has offered them money, vacations, and even buy-outs of their houses to no avail.

3) Hawley's racing school left because the rent was jacked up significantly on the track and their on-site shop lease was not going to be renewed. Noise may have been involved, I don't know. I do know date availability was also a problem.
 
Actually, there are lots of homes just east of the track that have been there for quite a while. There are some nice old neighborhoods nearby the track that were there before the track was and the loud cars got really loud.

Dave, they have been running at Pomona since 1953! There was Nothing out there back then! I've heard that from some of the old timers who remember.
 
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