I found this on drag racing online . It was an interesting read.
::: DRO ::: A Conversation with Dan Olson
::: DRO ::: A Conversation with Dan Olson
Sounds like good things for top fuel and fuel funny car next year. (1 Viewer)
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Skunk Werx Racing
Nitro Member
Thanks for the link William. It would be great to see the costs get back under control. I want to see the likes of Butch Blair and Robert Reehl out their again!
More interestingly, he says he would have disqualified him. That run or from the entire event?
More interestingly, he says he would have disqualified him. That run or from the entire event?
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rocketman
Nitro Member
James, you're singing my song! The truth is it costs more money to operate these cars then private operators can afford, and more money than most companies can or will commit to.
Doug in the woods
Nitro Member
nnitro percentage is only one aspect to cutting costs
IMO the biggest increase in performance came about when the monster fuel pumps started pumping even more fuel into the fire breathing devil.
lower the fuel pump quanities and go to 90%
limit the flow around 80 gpm per pump and keep a handle on the amount of overdrive that the pump is driven.
lowering the blower overdrive will help as well.
sure performance will suffer but the sport will live longer.
IMO the biggest increase in performance came about when the monster fuel pumps started pumping even more fuel into the fire breathing devil.
lower the fuel pump quanities and go to 90%
limit the flow around 80 gpm per pump and keep a handle on the amount of overdrive that the pump is driven.
lowering the blower overdrive will help as well.
sure performance will suffer but the sport will live longer.
Kelly Andersen
Nitro Member
The question is, why would they go back to 90% when they put rev limiters on to slow them down also?? although it didnt do much good. you would think if they bump it back up there would be more oildowns due to hitting the limiter sooner and seeing more damage. it will be interesting to see what happens.
Kelly Andersen
Nitro Member
I remember Big Daddy did a little piece on fuel pumps, they sprayed it into a clear container, he said its the same as turning 8 of your average house showers on at once, it was incredible. I wish I could find the piece it was good.
Let's not get carried away here, to get those Independents back out you may as well slow them down to 4.80's-90's. These teams spend Mega $$$ on Parts inventory every year, and any rule change means they have to Buy new parts rendering the Old stuff useless. The only thing I read in the Article is Dan Olson's going to take feedback from the Racers/Crewchiefs. My bet is the 90% rule again IMO.
Jenn
Nitro Member
The article ends there...would have been interesting to see where it went from there.
DrRocket
Nitro Member
It all depends how how much independence the suits at Glendora give him. In other words, do they let him do the job he was hired for? Or do they tell him what THEY want, and just let him be the bad guy?
He did say that because the teams are forced to use higher compression, and more blower, they're on the verge of detonation all the time, and when the rev-limiter kicks in, the rods kick out.
He did say that because the teams are forced to use higher compression, and more blower, they're on the verge of detonation all the time, and when the rev-limiter kicks in, the rods kick out.
I was NITRO BREATH
Nitro Member
In the end-the only way to make things cheaper is to slow things down-- and that never seems to work
Man.....whats w/ all the slow-em attitude?
Nitro cars have always made a mess...I like em to hiccup every once in awhile.
Since records have been kept the e.t. record gets broke every year.
Evryone says slow-em down...why? If they run 85% or 100% nitro thay will break something. Thats the nature of this game.
I have worked w/ a few crewchiefs that continue to push the timing advance and o.d.% knowing something will grenade.
People...we are talking about some big egos out there. Some tuners would rather go-up-in smoke rather than be out muscled near the finish line.
NHRA does not care about the teams on the playing field. They set the boundaries and thats the final straw.
Please do not read into the politics as more often than not we/you are creating this topic that is not on their to-do list.
100% nitro does allow the teams w/ less capital to be easier on parts though....
Nitro cars have always made a mess...I like em to hiccup every once in awhile.
Since records have been kept the e.t. record gets broke every year.
Evryone says slow-em down...why? If they run 85% or 100% nitro thay will break something. Thats the nature of this game.
I have worked w/ a few crewchiefs that continue to push the timing advance and o.d.% knowing something will grenade.
People...we are talking about some big egos out there. Some tuners would rather go-up-in smoke rather than be out muscled near the finish line.
NHRA does not care about the teams on the playing field. They set the boundaries and thats the final straw.
Please do not read into the politics as more often than not we/you are creating this topic that is not on their to-do list.
100% nitro does allow the teams w/ less capital to be easier on parts though....
kingcobrafan
Nitro Member
On the button. Good post.
hellfirejim
Nitro Member
Looking at this realistically, the smart thing would be to bring back the percentage of Nitro to at least 90% and back the overdrive down. This would NOT slow the cars down but would give them roughly what they have now without overstressing the parts as they are now.
You can't do much about the compression as policing it would be a nitemare but you can control the % and the max amount of overdrive.
We all know this is costly as hell but if we could slow down the rate at which they use up parts it might actually allow some racers to make another race.
jim
You can't do much about the compression as policing it would be a nitemare but you can control the % and the max amount of overdrive.
We all know this is costly as hell but if we could slow down the rate at which they use up parts it might actually allow some racers to make another race.
jim
aafunnycar
Nitro Member
Wasn't that Steve Evans who did that piece? Or, maybe they BOTH did that story, at different times....I'm so foggy lately.
I have never tuned a blown nitro combination but if they raise the nitro % and lower the OD, why wouldn't you boost compression once again?
