Schumacher DQ?? (3 Viewers)

[DLB]

To clear up any confusion on this topic the NHRA has stated that the winner of round one must weigh at the scales after the round. Round two the crew chief must promise they are still legal. Round three the crew chief and two team members must state they cross their hearts and hope to die if they are not legal. A finals win requires the owner of the team to swear on his mothers life they are legal. This should clear up any confusion.

Ohhhhhhh!!!!

Kind of like when an owner swears that there will be no team orders...

The POWERS that be in Glendora have sure messed this one up.

DLB

 

[CrewMan]

WOW. I just watched the 1320 coverage.

Well NHRA has dug themselves another hole if it is true Cmac got off with a warning. What is good for one has to be good for all. I think we have all known for awhile that NHRA has always had 1 set of unwritten rules for everything so this should come as no surprise.

As far as Shoe's tantrem...the comment about Troxel...while I am sure it was made in haste...not a good thing to say. But I do agree with pretty much everything else he said. I am sure more good will come than bad of this...sometimes ya gotta call the man on the carpet for the good of everyone.

I was under the impression everyone had to go through a weight and fuel check.

 

[DLB]

One other thing (while I am still honestly stunned at the amount that people can't let last years "Schumacher fiasco" go)...

You all do realize that it was irrelevant to him winning the race and the championship, etc., right - it was a qualifying pass and he smoked the tires at the hit.

If you want to stay PO'ed about it...get mad at the NHRA for not taking the action they said they would - or the crew chief that you all wish was tuning your favorite driver!

Automobile Club of Southern California NHRA Finals: U.S. Army Dragster

In other words (for the nth time), get over it.

DLB

 

[blackbeard]

cry me a freakin river, shoe. you've been putting down other teams for years now. it's getting old. get some class.

 

[Meeks]

I do have to say it is pretty pathetic how you all are crying about last year...especially since that run really didnt amount to anything but if it were any other driver, I can gurantee alot of your thoughts would change.

I posted the actual rule a couple pages back and it sounds like to me NHRA and everyone else should just throw the damn rulebook away..its not followed anyway. I guess we already put up with enough drama with the countdown..why not make up the rules as we go?

 

[Rajunz]

I do have to say it is pretty pathetic how you all are crying about last year...especially since that run really didnt amount to anything but if it were any other driver, I can gurantee alot of your thoughts would change.................

You are exactly right what happened in the past is exactly that, water under the bridge.

With that said, then you should find it just as pathetic how Tony is crying about something that happened in the past.....................Cory should have never been brought into the conversation, that was also in the past.


Face it, they drove past the scales, they screwed up, simple as that. He should have been a man, take his medicine and get on with life, don't point fingers and try to pass blame on others, don't try and point out flaws in others, and especially don't talk trash about your competitors.

 

[Reese]

In Stock/Superstock, we were always told that if you win, you weigh and get your fuel checked. If you lose, you wait until the winner get fuel and weight checked. If the winner fails, you make sure you get checked so you could get the round win, if he/she doesn't fail, time to go home. If you don't stop at the scales and the winner fails, whoever was suppose to face the winner has a bye next round.

 

[Rajunz]

In Stock/Superstock, we were always told that if you win, you weigh and get your fuel checked. If you lose, you wait until the winner get fuel and weight checked. If the winner fails, you make sure you get checked so you could get the round win, if he/she doesn't fail, time to go home. If you don't stop at the scales and the winner fails, whoever was suppose to face the winner has a bye next round.

That's an excellent rule, should be written in stone for all cl***es.

 

[.]

What a lot of people fail to understand is:
IT HAD NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, TO DO WITH THE COUNTDOWN.

And, if it did, he shouldn't be complaining, because HE got the most welfare points of anyone in TF.

So, when he says NHRA can pick and choose their Countdown winner, did he mean himself?

He showed just how little cl*** he has when he through Mel and Cory Mac under the bus. Uncalled for from a "professional".

 

[Bob K.]

I am not necessarily a Shumacher fan, I like all the racers. So I was pulling
for my friend David Baca's partner in this one.... However the scale crew has
been inconsistent. They do not stop all of them. The one thing that Tony's
crew did wrong was not at least make contact with the one person that was
in the scale house before taking off. Otherwise I don't blame them for being
mad as hell!
BK

 

[twok4hd]

What's with the *** where a s s is supposed to be. A new spell check?

 

[.]

Funny, NHRA can't afford to put up simple red and green lights at the scales but one of the NHRA senior staff can afford to buy a Bentley.
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[Rajunz]

Funny, NHRA can't afford to put up simple red and green lights at the scales but one of the NHRA senior staff can afford to buy a Bentley.
Torco Racing Fuel's Competition Plus.com - Drag Racing's Internet Magazine - THE HIGH RENT DISTRICT

Not likely they'll drive it to the track though, sure to get keyed..............

 

[Tbone]

Funny, NHRA can't afford to put up simple red and green lights at the scales but one of the NHRA senior staff can afford to buy a Bentley.
Torco Racing Fuel's Competition Plus.com - Drag Racing's Internet Magazine - THE HIGH RENT DISTRICT

WHO!!! CARES!!! If I had the money I'd buy one too!!! Just stop and weigh the damn car, if you're not sure then you probably need to weigh!!!

 

[DE3]

FWIW, I usually just sit back and read many of the threads on here, but this one is unreal and I need to comment. It is NOT the scale crew's responsibility to wave the racer in, it is yours after a winning run. There shouldn't be a racer out there that doesn't know this, and it should be automatic. I've NEVER seen a winning car get waved past the scales, only waived past fuel check for one reason or another. And this garbage about red and green lights, please! If you want that, go drive in the city.

 

[Jay]

No.... easiest solution is weigh them all.. win or loose.. advance or not in quailifing...

Sorry but to me it made some of the funniest tv i have ever seen in a while....lol i kept waiting to hear one of the Shoes scream "we skipped the scales before and you didn't mind .. why now?".. GL trying to look like a REAL official was pretty funny too..... cracked me up they let the tv cameras catch it all.... GL.. looked at it a couple times and seemed to think i wished you guys weren't here...lol....

Billy

When I saw the cameras shooting the disagreement between Don Schumacher and Graham Light, all I could think of was a call coming from Dallas for Graham Light to star in the next Southwest Airlines commercial...

"Wanna Get Away?".....

 

[stanman]

... it is yours after a winning run. There shouldn't be a racer out there that doesn't know this, and it should be automatic. ...

Amen!

I'm a lowly sportsman racer and I know this. When I was running Super Gas they only weighed Super Gas at random. But I figured I didn't want there to being any question so I used to always pull across the scales if I won first round.

I used to always get some funny looks from the scale crew and some would even ask what I was doing. When I told them, they'd look at the readout and say, "okay" and wave me goodbye.

 

[Jay]

I am not going to form an opinion either way on this topic because my opinion doesn't matter, but I DO have a opinion to bring up to all of the people that have commented on how Tony should "grow up" and move on...

This incident happened yesterday...only 24 hours ago...

If someone took $100,000 out of YOUR pocket, whether or not you deserved it, can you honestly tell me that you wouldn't be absoleutely pi$$ed off and almost to the point where your anger was more in control of you than you are of it?

Whether or not you were angry with the NHRA because you feel you were wronged, angry at yourself for screwing up, or a combination of both because you screwed up and they enforced it against you and not to anyone else...You'd be ready to spit nails...

The point is, anyone on this board that can relate to what it is like to have $100,000 taken away from you and wouldn't be absolutely berzerk about it is 100% FULL OF Sh!T!
That's a LOT of money...

Now, some of you might think it isn't because relative to the amount of money that family has, its peanuts...No way...its STILL $100,000....Here is a pretty good example:

If you are a mechanic making $40,000/yr. at work, and you worked really hard to get a car fixed in time for a customer, and then just because you forgot to show that customer the broken parts that you replaced, as you usually do, so that they knew that the $1500 repair bill was legit, you then got fined $1500 from your salary, tell me you wouldn't quit your job after telling your boss what hole to stick the invoice in...

But, even though it may have been a stupid reason to get docked the $1500 out of your pay, you were still in the wrong, right? You should have saved those parts to show the customer...

Go to the scales after each run...ESPECIALLY with that much money on the line...this way, they can't "knitpick" at you for something so "stupid."

 

[Cymon Sez]

This is the biggest case of A S S U M E both parties are wrong PERIOD!

NHRA AND TONY BOTH need to accept responsibility here.

NHRA A S S U M E 's that everyone will abide bye the "RULE" you have to weigh after each wining/improving run, but on occasion will wave them by.

TONY A S S U M E 's that since no one was at the scales to stop him that its ok to just pass, and if they want us to weigh then they will say something.

I think they both looked like a s s 's that day.


I don't like both parties involved and would think this way if it was any other driver.

 

[Smiley]

I am not going to form an opinion either way on this topic because my opinion doesn't matter, but I DO have a opinion to bring up to all of the people that have commented on how Tony should "grow up" and move on...

This incident happened yesterday...only 24 hours ago...

If someone took $100,000 out of YOUR pocket, whether or not you deserved it, can you honestly tell me that you wouldn't be absoleutely pi$$ed off and almost to the point where your anger was more in control of you than you are of it?

Whether or not you were angry with the NHRA because you feel you were wronged, angry at yourself for screwing up, or a combination of both because you screwed up and they enforced it against you and not to anyone else...You'd be ready to spit nails...

The point is, anyone on this board that can relate to what it is like to have $100,000 taken away from you and wouldn't be absolutely berzerk about it is 100% FULL OF Sh!T!
That's a LOT of money...

Now, some of you might think it isn't because relative to the amount of money that family has, its peanuts...No way...its STILL $100,000....Here is a pretty good example:

If you are a mechanic making $40,000/yr. at work, and you worked really hard to get a car fixed in time for a customer, and then just because you forgot to show that customer the broken parts that you replaced, as you usually do, so that they knew that the $1500 repair bill was legit, you then got fined $1500 from your salary, tell me you wouldn't quit your job after telling your boss what hole to stick the invoice in...

But, even though it may have been a stupid reason to get docked the $1500 out of your pay, you were still in the wrong, right? You should have saved those parts to show the customer...

Go to the scales after each run...ESPECIALLY with that much money on the line...this way, they can't "knitpick" at you for something so "stupid."

For the record (and not a shot a you personally Jay)...
It cost him the "chance" at $100,000, which I'm sure in his eyes was as good as already won, the only problem is he would have had to get past Hot Rod, which is never a given.

It definitely cost him $9,000 (he got $6,000 for the semis, and would have at least won the $15,000 for runner-up).

Tony said in the 1320 video "What, we should just lose a hundred grand?" like it was a given they were going to win it. AJ is amazing, and Tony is a good driver, but that is quite a bit of arrogance..