NHRA stop and think (1 Viewer)

[PJ]

Wow, it seems just about every week now that there is a new article on nhra.com that is futilely trying to praise the horrible new point system. It seems that they think that if they say it enough then it must be true. Beat us over the head with the plan, bombard us supposed interviews and maybe, just maybe we'll accept fake championships.

I would think that if you have to work that hard to sell it then maybe its not worth selling.

There is a difference between promoting and begging people. Maybe they are still trying to talk themselves into the idea of going to this welfare system.

NHRA there is still time to make the right move. Restore the true championships.

 

[StockersRock]

PJ, you beat me to it. I totally agree. Smells like propaganda to me.

 

[john]

Smells like propaganda to me.

And it stinks!

 

[Joker741]

To be honest, I hope the champion this year would not have been the champ without this system. Then maybe a top team will pitch a fit and it will go back to the way it should be. Best performing car all YEAR should be the champ, not the best for 8 races.

 

[Rajunz]

I'm looking forward to the Playoff Races.............................

 

[PJ]

I've lost a lotta respect for some of the teams that I normally cheer for. Claiming they now have a shot at a championship because of this. What happened to earning it? If they make it easier for you and basically hand it out cheaply, is it really a championship????


Should we reward teams a few extra points when they can't run a in the
4.4's so they don't fall two far behind?

 

[BaldyLochs]

Great post, PJ. But I think the sad reality is.... the gavel has fallen, and the decision sure as heck won't be reversed. Granted, they might change it in a few years or so, after they see how it all shakes out; but for now..... it is what it is. They better hope a few people "who might not ordinarily have a shot" actually win a championship within a year or 2. Otherwise the credibility of the system goes out the window in my opinion.

 

[stinky]

At the risk of getting crucified for this... here it is.

I wasn't all for the new point system and still at times have a problem with it. But then I think about when the Seattle Mariners won 116 games in a single season to set an American League record. They won more games in 2001 than anyother team in the AL or the NL but they sure didn't win the championship.

They only thing I am hoping for out of this is that smaller funded teams might be able to saty in the mix with the higher funded teams and hopefully be able to gat more teams out there in the mix because of this system. Right now I see NHRA racing going the way of NASCAR and I don't like it. I understand that it is the same type of points system as NASCAR, but hopefully NHRA's system was implemented soon enough that it could entice more sponsors into the arena of winng a championship in the lower cast NHRA than in the stupidly expensive NASCAR with a new team.

Then I again... I am probably just wishful thinkn'

 

[Joker741]

Even NASCAR made revisions to thier system. NHRA needs to let the racers race, and let the cars run.

 

[downtime]

"stop and think" are two different things... Multi tasking is required...

The heart of a season long competition is to determine the best racer over the course of a season. This is no longer true with the changes in the championship series.

I admire the courage to try and change things to increase media coverage and interest, and to provide key players more air time.

That said, I believe the integrity of the series can potentially be called into question due to the manner in which the changes have been implemented. Hopefully all will work out (mathmatically) this season so next year a real championship can be had without further jeopardizing the integrity of the sport.

 

[mick]

.......They only thing I am hoping for out of this is that smaller funded teams might be able to saty in the mix with the higher funded teams and hopefully be able to gat more teams out there in the mix because of this system...........it could entice more sponsors into the arena of winng a championship in the lower cast NHRA than in the stupidly expensive NASCAR with a new team.

i agree with you. put yourself in the shoes of a potential sponsor who knows
they want to be in motorsports, but not sure how or where; who's giving
most exposure vs. cost; exposure being the key word here.
Sponsors in NHRA pro drag racing have remained fairly stagnent over the years;
some come, some go, but very few stay long term (budweiser, castrol).
in an effort to keep more long term sponsors, even if it means revamping
the points system for entertainment's sake, i say let's give it a try.

 

[Joker741]

"The Don" posts on here from time to time, wonder what he would say after putting all the money into Tony and Alan, having the most points in the old system, and not coming away with the championship? I think he may be a little pissed off, I know I would be if I was a team owner.

 

[Paul]

Not again, I thought the crying about the new system was over. Give it a chance, it should be real entertaining. If you don't like the new system at the end of November when the champs are crowned, then start your crying and bitching.

 

[TAFC 5 81]

There has to be some PS guys liking the new system. The pace GA is setting, the Championship may have been all but over by Indy (instead of just beginning).

 

[PJ]

Not again, I thought the crying about the new system was over. Give it a chance, it should be real entertaining. If you don't like the new system at the end of November when the champs are crowned, then start your crying and bitching.

If the top fuel championship is not as close as last years then can I expect you to be leading the charge of those of us who bitch and cry??? After all isn't a closer championship race why we are being forced this welfare system?

 

[PJ]

At the risk of getting crucified for this... here it is.

I wasn't all for the new point system and still at times have a problem with it. But then I think about when the Seattle Mariners won 116 games in a single season to set an American League record. They won more games in 2001 than anyother team in the AL or the NL but they sure didn't win the championship.

Ok here's why even with your point why I am still against it.

An example: In baseball your team wins 110 games and mines wins 116. In stick and ball sports thats the only number that matters but are all wins the same. What if your team won their games by an average of 3.1 runs and mine by only 1.1. None of that matters, it only matters that you won. Lets look at the losses of our teams, your team lost their games by .8 mine by 4.1 Looks like your team is much better but we don't know that and can't without a playoff.

In drag racing we already do know how good or bad a loss is. You get more points for runner up then you do for going out in the first round. You still lost either way but one is not as bad as the other. I would argue that under the classic scoring system nhra used (ie before this year) that we had the truest champion in all of sports.

Now we have replaced greatness with mediocracy.

 

[Paul]

If the top fuel championship is not as close as last years then can I expect you to be leading the charge of those of us who bitch and cry??? After all isn't a closer championship race why we are being forced this welfare system?

How about the championship races that are wrapped up before the last race of the year? B-O-R-I-N-G! I can only remember a couple of title races that went to the final race where two or more drivers had a LEGIMATE shot at winning the title. This year you will have 4 cars in each class that has a shot at the title in Pomona, this is entertainment and it will add excitement to drag racing.

 

[PJ]

How about the championship races that are wrapped up before the last race of the year? B-O-R-I-N-G! I can only remember a couple of title races that went to the final race where two or more drivers had a LEGIMATE shot at winning the title. This year you will have 4 cars in each class that has a shot at the title in Pomona, this is entertainment and it will add excitement to drag racing.

Thats fine that means that they earned it. If I'm the one getting my arse handed to me and someone walks away with a championship fine. I surely don't want to have some welfare points system give me points that I didn't earn just to catch up to them.

So intergrity doesn't matter. No Substance you just want glitz, style and manufactured entertainment. Lets just have a one race for the championship like they did back in the old days. Can't get more exciting than that. Hell we're only a step away from going all amercian idol with this anyway, lets just have a vote at the end of the season to see who wins. Even better we can borrow from wwe/wwf and just start scirpting the races, afterall you just want excitment and entertainment right?

Do you realize that under this system somebody could win 22 of the 23 races and Still not be the champ. Explain to me how that is right?

 

[d'kid]

How about the championship races that are wrapped up before the last race of the year? B-O-R-I-N-G! I can only remember a couple of title races that went to the final race where two or more drivers had a LEGIMATE shot at winning the title. This year you will have 4 cars in each class that has a shot at the title in Pomona, this is entertainment and it will add excitement to drag racing.

Better a guy that has it wrapped up by Indy... And Championship on the line or not, I've never seen a boring Drag Race... Every Race is the Sweet Sixteen... The Champ is the person with the most Round Wins, best Qualifying Numbers, Best overall season... The BEST OVERALL FOR THE YEAR is Champion...

 

[Paul]

The NHRA is changing with times; the new system provides a structure that will enable the NHRA to take the sport to a new level as long as it is publicized properly. Right or wrong, the new system will allow the NHRA to put on the best points show possible. The added attention should provide extra exposure to the NHRA and its teams which would not have happened if the championship was wrapped up by Indy. I understand what everyone is saying about the most round wins, etc., but at the end of day more entertainment provides more $$$ to the NHRA.