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NHRA should consider this....
- Thread starter Silly Savage
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Good Lord....John Force wouldn't get six years in an American prison if he ordered his team to plant an IED in Matt Hagen's pit area....
I think F1 drivers rank among the world's biggest pricks but a potential 6-year jail stint for helping a teammate? They ain't THAT bad. And they can be thankful it's F1 and not a soccer game, which in Brazil would merit beheading for a similar infraction.
I think F1 drivers rank among the world's biggest pricks but a potential 6-year jail stint for helping a teammate? They ain't THAT bad. And they can be thankful it's F1 and not a soccer game, which in Brazil would merit beheading for a similar infraction.
my friends call me Zappy
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Thank goodness NHRA isn't that dumb. Leave that rule in Brazil
mick
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wow, think about this (if this article is true)....brazil has gone out of their way to implement an anti-fraud law that applies to 'sports competition'?
wonder if this was written with the 2016 olympics in mind?
carl, obviously you've confused 'world's most talented drivers' with
something else.
wonder if this was written with the 2016 olympics in mind?
carl, obviously you've confused 'world's most talented drivers' with
something else.
Bobby Bennett
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The big issue here is that someone is admitting it in F1 but no one has admitted it in NHRA, well maybe once in Pro Stock.
Sean D, shondoo
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mick
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connie did once with scott and doug in tf'rs; way before
this was a hot topic; back then it was just
thought to be logical
The stuff coming out of South America on this topic is nothing but hot air. Actually proving something is far more difficult than making an accusation.
After Ayrton Senna's death Italian prosecutors decided to take action, and I know I'm not going to remember this correctly, but they levied charges against several people, including other drivers and even team officials. A lengthy and costly trial took place, with everyone walking away free because it was impossible to "prove" that either another driver was responsible in any intentional way, nor did the team intentionally provide him with a defective car.
Regarding Kalitta, two situations come to mind. One, at the Gators, involved Doug racing Grubnic (I think!). Kalitta was asked by the media who would win. He replied, "We're racin'. 'Course, that's now. Later in the year things could be different."
When the situation came up in Brainerd and he was asked about Doug racing Scott, his reply was, "Scott's just out here havin' some fun, but Doug's racing for the championship, so who do you think is gonna win?"
Unless and until some utterly foolish racer says, PRIOR to his race, "Yeah, I'm going in the tank for my teammate," or says at the finish line, "I had to lose. My team owner told me to," nothing's going to change. I don't care how many computer readouts you check, NHRA can't prove much of anything in this area.
And don't you think the guys tuning these cars aren't smart enough to add just enough to the clutch to smoke the tires at 300 feet? Without being blatantly obvious about it?
Racers are going to dive, period. We may not like it, but from a business perspective, it's often the right thing to do.
Jon Asher
Senior Editor
CompetitionPlus.com
After Ayrton Senna's death Italian prosecutors decided to take action, and I know I'm not going to remember this correctly, but they levied charges against several people, including other drivers and even team officials. A lengthy and costly trial took place, with everyone walking away free because it was impossible to "prove" that either another driver was responsible in any intentional way, nor did the team intentionally provide him with a defective car.
Regarding Kalitta, two situations come to mind. One, at the Gators, involved Doug racing Grubnic (I think!). Kalitta was asked by the media who would win. He replied, "We're racin'. 'Course, that's now. Later in the year things could be different."
When the situation came up in Brainerd and he was asked about Doug racing Scott, his reply was, "Scott's just out here havin' some fun, but Doug's racing for the championship, so who do you think is gonna win?"
Unless and until some utterly foolish racer says, PRIOR to his race, "Yeah, I'm going in the tank for my teammate," or says at the finish line, "I had to lose. My team owner told me to," nothing's going to change. I don't care how many computer readouts you check, NHRA can't prove much of anything in this area.
And don't you think the guys tuning these cars aren't smart enough to add just enough to the clutch to smoke the tires at 300 feet? Without being blatantly obvious about it?
Racers are going to dive, period. We may not like it, but from a business perspective, it's often the right thing to do.
Jon Asher
Senior Editor
CompetitionPlus.com
Alan, I just fell off the turnip truck, so help me out. Why would Hagen take a dive against John Force? Are they not on two different, highly competitive teams in a virtual deadlock for the Championship? If Hagen had won that race, he would have a 77-point lead going into Pomona, which would have been nearly insurmountable.
mick
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alan,
your first post is worded incorrectly for us to infer the message you have
now explained in your second post.
if ashley had raced her dad in the final and smoked the tires, you are damn
rite I and many others would cry foul.....that is the bed john force made
for himself last year at indy and will take a JFR-team race with opposite
results for a lot of us to let it go - once you race with thefix in, that is how you
will be perceived - no big deal, that's just the way it is.
example: ashley races dad in pomona; dad needs to win to remain in
contention, but ashley beats him - my perception of JFR would change
instantly.
i don't care if a team dives, but don't have to like it.
your first post is worded incorrectly for us to infer the message you have
now explained in your second post.
if ashley had raced her dad in the final and smoked the tires, you are damn
rite I and many others would cry foul.....that is the bed john force made
for himself last year at indy and will take a JFR-team race with opposite
results for a lot of us to let it go - once you race with thefix in, that is how you
will be perceived - no big deal, that's just the way it is.
example: ashley races dad in pomona; dad needs to win to remain in
contention, but ashley beats him - my perception of JFR would change
instantly.
i don't care if a team dives, but don't have to like it.
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J
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Gee if it wasnt so obvious maybe we wouldnt think that.
mw6789
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What a load of sh*t.... The world economy is in the tank and some idiot prosecuter wants to sue a race team for fraud. Never mind people are hungry, homeless, and out of work---by golly we just cant have some racer purposely lose a race. Hell yes---SUE him... and his team.... and put them all in jail. After all, this is IMPORTANT sh*t we are dealing with here.
Rollout96
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Kansas Stan
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If Force said it was dark at the stroke of midnight, you guys would say it's noon and you know it. There isn't anything he can do without it being a grand conspiracy. They have professionals that can help you deal with paranoia.
