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New Starter?

I must say I am surprised at the interest generated over who is going to be the new starter. I have been to dozens of events under different sanctions, and never once gave a thought to who the starter was. I am sure there are plenty of competent guys out there, NHRA will hire one.

I wonder if you guys are worried who the refs are going to be at the Super Bowl, rather than the guys actually playing the game.

Have you raced? The starter does matter. Just like the refs do matter. When they suck.

This is very different than football. There are a dozen refs, umpires, line judges, etc. etc., and there are something like 20 teams of those people working simultaneously on any given Sunday. There is one starter.

In the last, what?, 40 years there have been two starters (not sure about back at the beginning). If just from that perspective, it's interesting.
 
I wonder if you guys are worried who the refs are going to be at the Super Bowl, rather than the guys actually playing the game.

As a Giants fan, the team has not only had to deal with injuries but refs that seemed to be in the pocket for the other team all season (case in point: the two packers games). So yeah, I'm worried about the officiating crew.

But anyway, back to your regular "new NHRA starter" thread....
 
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As a Giants fan, the team has not only had to do with injuries but refs that seemed to be in the pocket for the other team all season (case in point: the two packers games). So yeah, I'm worried about the officiating crew.

But anyway, back to your regular "new NHRA starter" thread....

and there's too many times where they call bogus plays, it's like they need to throw the flag X numbed of times to get paid a bonus like the cops need to ticket drivers to get their quota in the end of the month., hence they go all out in the last few days of the week
 
As a Giants fan, the team has not only had to deal with injuries but refs that seemed to be in the pocket for the other team all season (case in point: the two packers games). So yeah, I'm worried about the officiating crew.

But anyway, back to your regular "new NHRA starter" thread....
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Your perspective Sam:D;)
 
As a Giants fan, the team has not only had to deal with injuries but refs that seemed to be in the pocket for the other team all season (case in point: the two packers games). So yeah, I'm worried about the officiating crew.

But anyway, back to your regular "new NHRA starter" thread....

My high school coach said it best. "Players play, coaches coach and refs ref ... in that order. If you think you lost because of the refs, you as players did not do enough to win the game and I as a coach did not do enough to win the game."
 
Why would you think this job is any different than your 9 to 5 job?
Because unlike most 9 - 5 jobs peoples lives are on the line every set of cars you "just flip the switch" for

Regardless of the actual task, the bottom line is you are hired (or promoted) by a company to do a job. At the end of the day they (your employer) calls the shots. Buster worked for a very different NHRA than the one we all currently enjoy and Fans have to get past that. In today's NHRA, Buster wouldn't be able to be Buster for a lot of reasons ... Period.
You are correct it is different but I don't "enjoy" it as much. Buster would still be Buster, he just may not stay in the position as long

Today, you do what you are supposed to do as defined in your job description and you will be reviewed / rewarded based on how you execute. Rebel too much or buck the system and you might be back looking for a new job.
You make it sound as though the only way to make changes is to rebel or buck the system

You guys read way too much into this job ... it is just that a job.
Then anyone should be able to do it right ? If you believe that this position doesnt require a specific type of individual then you obviously have never "been there done that"

The people here and most fans think the NHRA is chock full of glamour jobs with glitz and power and all that goes with it. You could not be more wrong. For the Full Time "working" employees, pay scales are likely uncompettitive with other markets requiring the same amount of time betwen working the events, driving equipment to the next venue, etc. Jobs at NHRA have a defined role and you are expected do that job as Management intends. And yes there are year end performance reviews like in most other jobs. Don't think its a "real" job ... ask all the Full Time people including the Safari team how it felt to have a flat 10% pay cut. How about losing their 401k matching? Sounds just like many other American workers to me. The NHRA runs just like any normal company that makes money and employs people. Interesting speculation that "pay scales are likely uncompettitive" ...

Trust me, employees from the Staff in Glendora, to the Full time National Event Crew, to Sales, Maketing, and the Division Staff all view this as a job
As they should - NHRA is a business. It needs to make money to pay wages for those people (don't start the overpaid management argument here). I would love to see how many of NHRA employees are with NHRA because its just a job - I would suggest that most were involved in some form of motorsport prior to working for NHRA, I may be wrong

and if something better comes along, they will move on just like you or I would. Or they would work hard to move up the food chain because it is their passion
In our society (in this economy), you come to work and you do your job the way you see fit and to the best of your ability. If your Boss doesn't agree, he'll let you know about it.

How many of you as employees (not self employed or business owners) have complete run of the joint where you work say like Buster ran the Starting Line? Can you do what want? How you want? When you want? I would imagine very few can. There aren't very many jobs with complete autonomy. Everybody ultimately takes direction from somebody and has to answer to somebody.
You are right however how are you so sure that the rules changed when Buster stopped working ? Is it possibile that Rick just decided to do things his way and "Busters way" would still fall within the direction that the company wants ?
 
My high school coach said it best. "Players play, coaches coach and refs ref ... in that order. If you think you lost because of the refs, you as players did not do enough to win the game and I as a coach did not do enough to win the game."

Chris, your coach is so right. I know I have complained about ref before. But, one or a few plays should not decide a game. Even if the refs decision allows a game winning touchdown, the losing team had the entire rest of the game to score one more field goal or touchdown to keep it out of reach.
 
Mark lyle named official nhra chief starter

MARK LYLE NAMED OFFICIAL NHRA CHIEF STARTER

GLENDORA, Calif. (Feb. 1, 2012) —
NHRA officials announced today that Mark Lyle, long-time starter in NHRA’s Division 6 and a certified team member of the NHRA Safety Safari presented by AAA, has been named the official NHRA Chief Starter, one of the most storied positions in all of NHRA Drag Racing. There have only been two chief starters in the sport’s 60-plus year history, Buster Couch (1955-1996) and Rick Stewart (1996-2011).

Beginning at the O’Reilly Auto Parts NHRA Winternationals presented by Super Start Batteries at Auto Club Raceway at Pomona, Feb. 9-12, Lyle will command the best view in the facility, standing alongside every kind of drag racing vehicle, most notably the 7,000-horsepower Top Fuel and Funny Car machines featured in NHRA’s marquee Full Throttle Drag Racing Series.

“It is simply the highest honor anyone in my position can have,” said Lyle, who resides in North Bend, Wash., with his family. “I really have to thank Kenworth Northwest for being flexible with my NHRA work schedule over the years and for allowing me to pursue my dream. To follow in the footsteps of two iconic and legendary figures in NHRA history is beyond words. I am looking forward to sending off the first pair in Pomona.”

Lyle has worked in the automotive industry his entire professional career, all the while spending countless weeknights and weekends perfecting his craft on the starting line, or working as a safety team member in the sport he has loved since his youth. He started as the official starter at Pacific Raceways in 2000, and since then has been a certified team member of NHRA’s Division 6. He was named the official starter of the division in 2005. Lyle worked alongside recently retired NHRA chief starter Stewart at many national events the last several years.

“Throughout his time as a starting line official, he has demonstrated the characteristics necessary to take on this very important position on the NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series circuit,” said Graham Light, senior vice president of racing operations, NHRA. “He always has safety first and foremost in his mind and strives to be fair and just in his decision-making.”

Headquartered in Glendora, Calif., NHRA is the primary sanctioning body for the sport of drag racing in the United States. NHRA presents 23 national events featuring the NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series, NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series and NHRA Pro Mod Drag Racing Series presented by ProCare Rx. NHRA provides competition opportunities for drivers of all levels in the NHRA Summit Racing Series and the NHRA Drags: Street Legal Style presented by AAA. NHRA also offers the Jr. Drag Racing League for youth ages 8 to 17. In addition, NHRA owns and operates five racing facilities: Gainesville Raceway in Florida; Atlanta Dragway in Georgia; National Trail Raceway in Ohio; Lucas Oil Raceway at Indianapolis; and Auto Club Raceway at Pomona in Southern California. For more information, log on to NHRA.com, or visit the official NHRA pages on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter.

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Have you raced? The starter does matter. Just like the refs do matter. When they suck.

This is very different than football. There are a dozen refs, umpires, line judges, etc. etc., and there are something like 20 teams of those people working simultaneously on any given Sunday. There is one starter.

In the last, what?, 40 years there have been two starters (not sure about back at the beginning). If just from that perspective, it's interesting.

I was looking it at it from a fan perspective, and most of the posts in this thread were by fans, not racers. I probably should have said I was surprised by fan interest to clarify.

I can see how as a racer, this decision looms large for you and other competitors.

Congrats to Mark Lyle!
 
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