Marty Staggs
Nitro Member
No repairing these blocks if they lose a rod or lifter I guess.
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New Ford Engine Unveiled
- Thread starter Bobby Bennett
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HEMI6point1
Nitro Member
I think John Medlen was the one that helped "develop" (if you can call putting Ford stickers on a HEMI "develop") this motor, not Coil. Could be wrong, though.
The rules don't allow it anymore but there are Ford engines available ...
C and C MotorSports
C and C MotorSports
C and C MotorSports
C and C MotorSports
onfire
Nitro Member
I believe that the bore spacing on the Austin motor was different from the NHRA "Spec" motor criteria which was based on the Hemi. This new "Ford" engine has the specified bore spacing.
Late.................Mitch
d'kid
Nitro Member
also,
crank to cam center
valve angle
sounds more like bottom end upgrades and JFR has already been doing their own heads for a while.
d'kid
BlueStangGT
Nitro Member
The Walt Austin motor was based on the actual Boss spec (5" Bore Center?) which I believe was originally approved by Glendora, then disallowed when they were ready to run it. I think Coil was quoted as saying that it would've obsoleted all the current nitro motors if it had been allowed.
MM
Nitro Member
they been doin most everything in house with their engine stuff.....i quote john "Coil made me build a $25,000 expansion to build nuts and bolts I can go down to the hardware store and buy for $.10 a piece"
Rajunz
Nitro Member
They all run them over the plug wires..................Those valve cover covers look totally pointless and in the way to me...
But, what do I know, I',m just a sanitary engineer (not really)...
Eh - looks like something Ford would do.
DLB
DrRocket
Nitro Member
True.
Here's a picture of the old Racegirl dragster I took in Brainerd in '05
d'kid
Nitro Member
Those valve cover covers look totally pointless and in the way to me...
But, what do I know, I',m just a sanitary engineer (not really)...
Eh - looks like something Ford would do.
DLB
So when you blow the plugs out they don't become bullets shooting into the stands... also help hold the plug wires on...
Bullet
Nitro Member
From some reports they were mandated after some people in the stands were shot by plugs.
DLB
Nitro Member
True.
Here's a picture of the old Racegirl dragster I took in Brainerd in '05
OK - I digress then.
That ^^^ I am used to seeing.
Those just looked awkward I suppose - a little wider or something.
Oh well. Oops. Open mouth - insert foot - taste leather.
DLB
It sure looks like a good ole Chrysler design w/ a few "ford" part numbers thrown in to make it a Ford?
It's interesting that when Coil was asked on TV if the engines Force has been using are Chrysler hemi's, he tapped danced around the subject and answered that " Todays fuel motors have no OEM parts in them". I doubt the new "Ford " fuel motor has many ford parts in it either. and I bet it shares the basic Mopar architecture which goes back to the original 426 from 1964
It's interesting that when Coil was asked on TV if the engines Force has been using are Chrysler hemi's, he tapped danced around the subject and answered that " Todays fuel motors have no OEM parts in them". I doubt the new "Ford " fuel motor has many ford parts in it either. and I bet it shares the basic Mopar architecture which goes back to the original 426 from 1964
yoda
Nitro Member
"It has a strengthened block for better durability and new cylinder heads developed by Ford and Force engineers. The basic design will favor areas such as the main caps register and the main webs in the block... Most of the external surface areas on the new 500-cubic-inch engine have been redesigned; a new belly pan was designed for better sealing... The engine also features Ford main bearings with actual parts numbers in the Ford performance catalog."
Let's be honest here- we all know its a stretch to get 1000hp out of ANY factory product.. The idea over at JFR is what it has been always- Do what's best for the sponsors, in this case, Ford, for branding a sucessful team with product association.. I'm all for JFR running a "Ford" block, as long as it doesn't completely oblterate the competition while also being unavailable to the masses.. Those guys at JFR have shown everyone how to make modern sponsors happy, and this is just one more step in that adventure..
Yeah, the Hemi is the foundation for all that we bow down to, but Mercury lead to Apollo and those bad ass Saturn muthers!!! If this opens the flood gates, good for us!!! I can't wait to see nitro in 2011...
Bullet
Nitro Member
Just like all of the Pro Stock engines have 4.9" bore spacing... they are all really Big Block Fords rebadged! Wouldn't you agree?
sdwarf36
Nitro Member
as long as it doesn't completely oblterate the competition while also being unavailable to the masses..
Naaa-NHRA wouldnt let that happen. Well not unless the mfg. throws alot of money--and promises to make to make them availble after a period of development. Just like H-D did with Vance+ Hines.
Naaa-NHRA wouldnt let that happen. Well not unless the mfg. throws alot of money--and promises to make to make them availble after a period of development. Just like H-D did with Vance+ Hines.
