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NAPA drops MRW. Is that good or bad for Capps?

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You reference two different thoughts. They don't is a TRUE statement. They never have is a FALSE statement.....
Well, at the time I said "don't", I was looking at the full body of work over time, but in retrospect, you are correct.

And every time I see someone reference a thread about diving (and we could include cheating, given Mel Troxels accusations about Tony running scales) I will bring this up. It seems that other drivers get drug through the mud around here, but that particular team is off limits. And it gets old. Same goes for sponsor poaching.
 
While I am no MWR fan, remember it is a huge team which employs many many ppl with families. I hope the downward spiral stops here and all survive. Thinking more than a few guys at the shop aren't going to sleep well until the 56 car is funded. It's the same philosophy that wishes JFR gets a new sponsor. To keep ppl employed and making sure cars are on the track to of eventually be beaten by DSR!!! :)
 
Agreed, but to claim they don't or never have done it is blatantly false.
Show me where I claim they never have.

I know Seattle was a dive, we all do.
I hated it then and hate it now. The big difference is, the owner himself publicly acknowledged what happened and publicly apologized for it, and publicly vowed to not do it again. They have demonstrated it over and over again.
 
I hope those in the NHRA who have dived to benefit different sponsors (Castrol to benefit AAA as an example) will learn from this and we will see heads up racing from all teams now on.
 
Guys you gotta remember the difference here. It is not about who dived now or who dove in the past or if it is right or wrong. The point is MWR got caught with proof to show what was done and it left ZERO speculation. DSR or JFR or any organization that may of practiced diving, that is all speculation and ZERO proof. That's the difference.
 
Tony Stewart is sponsored by IHOP next year! (Sorry, that was bad) I am not sure how much of MWR Michael owns now. I think it is less than 50%. I do not know how much influence he has now. I am not defending him. I just don't know where he stands in the management of the organization. Penske was almost as bad in the Richmond deal and Penske has been close to the edge with Pennsoil a couple of times. I wonder if that deal is solid. RCR needs a sponsor deal pretty badly. I hope Napa goes there if they stay in NASCAR. I don't know what a full NASCAR sponsor deal costs now, but the last deal Jr had with BUD was $18M and that was years ago.
 
I'm not on top of this story at all (Don't really follow NASCAR too closely) but, I don't really see the fuss. Formula One (the so-called top-of-the-top of motorsports) has been demonstrating "team orders" without apologies for years.
Never had a problem with the JFR dive for Robert Hight a few years ago - Why have a team if you can't help a team mate?

Fire away!
 
While I am no MWR fan, remember it is a huge team which employs many many ppl with families. I hope the downward spiral stops here and all survive. Thinking more than a few guys at the shop aren't going to sleep well until the 56 car is funded. It's the same philosophy that wishes JFR gets a new sponsor. To keep ppl employed and making sure cars are on the track to of eventually be beaten by DSR!!! :)

Waltrip should have thought about all those family's before he screwed up!
 
Sounds to me like Napa was looking for a way out and ole Mikie gave them one. The worse part to me is, Nascar came down hard but this has been happening forever and they have never done anything before.
 
IMHO, it was the intentional spin that raised NASCAR's ire, just like Piquet's staged accident in Singapore upset F1 even though team orders are the norm there...But, again IMO, NASCAR didn't feel they had 100% proof of the staged spin so they used the pits stop as an excuse to drop the hammer on MWR...
 
Sounds to me like Napa was looking for a way out and ole Mikie gave them one. The worse part to me is, Nascar came down hard but this has been happening forever and they have never done anything before.
I dunno about that. They just renewed the contract last year for 3 more years.

I'm thinking Nascar was P.O'd that things were so stupidly blatant. Lap down teammates have be spinning for years. (maybe without being mic'd + having a camera on them.) How many debris cautions have there been for roll bar padding?
If anyone is going to make a suspisous yellow come out at the end of a race, its gonna be them.*

* Just make sure as a driver you don't dare say anything over the radio about them doing something like that-it will cost you. Ask Kyle Busch-Denny Hamlin-Ryan Newman......
 
You're a smart guy. Please post up proof of all DSR dives. I'll wait for your response. Accusing someone in public with no proof might prove to be pretty expensive considering what just happened to MWR. But I'm sure you thought of that.

Thank you.

The key word is "never". You can't prove anything one way or the other.
 
Maybe NAPA tosses some of that money into a second drag car....perhaps a TF. Ya know I'd be willing to drive it for them even.
 
Speculation this AM in Louden is Truex giving MWR about a week to come up with a deal and then he would sign with Furniture Row. Apparently Furniture Row went after Truex pretty quickly after the NAPA announcement. All speculation at this point.
 
I don't follow NASCAR all that close, what was "the rocket fuel incident" from a few years ago?

It was the first season for MWR so they had no owner points to fall back on at the Daytona 500 to guarantee a spot in the field, so they were going to have to qualify on time (or do well in the Dual 150s). Michael Waltrip was down on the time sheets then suddenly picked up a bunch. Mikey got called to the inspection area and when they pulled the carb off to inspect the restrictor plate, the inspector either smelled something funny or saw something funny and pulled the intake manifold off and found an oxidizing residue in the manifold that should not have been there. They were immediately disqualified from the race and fined big money. Mikey feigned ignorance and fired a couple of people and apologized to NAPA and Toyota, kinda like he did last week.
 
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