clwill
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Chris, that was a nice summary of the possible ways change could be affected in the NHRA.
(click on the first link on this page)
501(c)(6) ownership - Google Search
Thanks... that's the link I provided back in post #38
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Chris, that was a nice summary of the possible ways change could be affected in the NHRA.
(click on the first link on this page)
501(c)(6) ownership - Google Search
It would be interesting to see if one could find, filed somewhere, perhaps with the State of California, the formation documents, the bylaws, the ownership information, etc. for the NHRA.
Chris, after a little digging, it turns out anyone can request a copy of the original exemption application that was submitted to form the non-profit company (this one from the IRS) and also a copy of the original articles of incorporation (this one from the State of California).
Chris, my sense is that the only change possible is a change in ownership of the NHRA. I see no other way of bringing about meaningful changes.
Probably so (I was just outlining all the possibilities). However a change of ownership would mean having the current shareholders sell their shares. And has been proven many times, you can't force people to sell something if they don't want to.
So unless someone makes them "an offer they can't refuse", it's really, as you say, peeing in the wind. Given the current ownership, and the unavailability of horse heads to place in beds, it seems like such an offer would revolve around $$ (and large $$$) to fatten their wallets. And with the current state of the business, it would take either someone crazy, or hell bent on change to make such an over-priced offer.
That being the case, Chris, wouldn't the next best alternative be to invest that same large $$$ into the creation of another Association? It saves the issue of having to buy something from people that don't want to sell...
Chris, my sense is that the only change possible is a change in ownership of the NHRA. I see no other way of bringing about meaningful changes.
Jon Asher
I had an exceptional relationship with Wally. We were e-mailing back and forth literally until a couple of days before he was hospitalized and died. We had numerous candid conversations about not only my writings, but his running of the NHRA. He told me numerous fabulous stories.
So if anyone understands how there are some individuals who have ownership of the NHRA and can explain exactly what it is they claim to own, please fill us in.
Registered member said:Each application for exemption must be accompanied by an exact copy of the organization’s organizing document: Articles of incorporation for a corporation, articles of organization for a limited liability company, articles of association or constitution for an association, or trust agreement or declaration of trust for a trust.
Chris, I understand that the typical form of a 501(c)(6) company will be a corporation that has shares of stock, and that appararently is the case with the NHRA.
But unlike a normal corporation, 501(c)(6) companies must adhere to pretty specific rules and limits on share ownership, and I hit a pretty good overview link on this here:
Understanding Nonprofit Ownership - For Dummies (ok, no wisecracks please)
You may not remember that the bulk of the proceeds for the sale was going to the remaining arm of the NHRA that would handle sportsman racing. At the time, principals were saying that all that money going to the non-professional side would guarantee its survival for a long time. By doing that, the requirement that proceeds go to the masses was to be met.
Also, please keep in mind that I understand the NHRA has various business interests and not all of them are non-profit. Though I understand that it's losing money, the real estate division (track ownership) is one of them. If NHRA Entertainment (just making that up) was another, and it was involved with producing Professional racing shows, it would not necessarily have to be part of the non-profit, get the racers off the street, publish the National Dragster, set the rules for bracket racing, division.
...I don't know for sure, but I suspect all these sub businesses were done as sub divisions of the NHRA, I've never seen any mention of separate businesses carrying on those activities. It shouldn't be that hard to find this out, and it likely will become apparent in the various documents I've sent off for.
Though anything is possible, I have to doubt that legal counsel would make such a massive mistake back then or that present counsel would lead the board this far astray. If indeed the NHRA were operating in a IRS-illegal manner, I would have expected a whole lot of tapdancing and paperwork to have been seen in the past.