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Injected Nitro FC - which races did they run?

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Anybody know what the Meyer car ran in testing?
 
I look at it this way. NHRA revived AFC in order to inject - pun intended - new life into a dying class. It'd be a damn shame for them to immediately begin neutering AFC in order to allow TAFC's to remain competitive. All you have then from the outside looking in is the same car with the same performance whose only difference is the sound it makes, despite the massive technical differences underneath that fans can't see. Time for ratchet up the excitement; these cars have been stuck in the mid 5.40s/mid 260s for two decades. Give the blower folks some help, like Randy suggested.

The next thing NHRA can do is substantially raise the purse for this class. TAD too. AA/FC is more expensive but this class ain't cheap, sponsors aren't growing on trees and "they do it for the love" only goes so far.

My God, Bartone's car is sinister looking.... :oops:
 
carl, that is the perfect description for the bartone livery. IMO introducing AFC is a logical step for class.
lots of big money pro mod racing out there. what keeps someone in the TAFC class?
 
carl, that is the perfect description for the bartone livery. IMO introducing AFC is a logical step for class.
lots of big money pro mod racing out there. what keeps someone in the TAFC class?
The love of it, Mike. But like I mentioned earlier that only goes so far, meaning the main reason for the diminishing numbers in my opinion comes down to money. If you don't have a major sponsor or a sizeable bank account you won't be running TAFC. 30 years ago when it was a lot more affordable we saw 25 cars at each national event vying for a top 16 spot. Today sponsorship has largely dried up and we're lucky if we see a 10-car field. You can come out better financially by campaiging a 16-second Buick Electra at a local bracket race.

I love the idea of injected nitro but they won't be any cheaper to run so the main issue remains unresolved. I don't believe you can campaign a car full time for less than $500,000 a year and probably a million or more for one of the top 5 teams. And that's beyond the reach of many racers who would love to run this class.
 
With the right tune up an A/Fuel funny car will be less expensive than blown alcohol.
Totally agree Randy. big saving's on all rotating parts. less RPM means savings on parts like transmissions, pulleys, burst panels. blower belts, valve springs, lifters, Etc. If it was more expensive why are there so few blown alky cars in dragster these days. Yes Shawn Cowie is 2024 world champion with a blown car and I am very impressed with his win.💪
One other plus for a injected car is more time for a burger between rounds 🍔. LOL
Larry Sutton---🤠
 
Totally agree Randy. big saving's on all rotating parts. less RPM means savings on parts like transmissions, pulleys, burst panels. blower belts, valve springs, lifters, Etc. If it was more expensive why are there so few blown alky cars in dragster these days. Yes Shawn Cowie is 2024 world champion with a blown car and I am very impressed with his win.💪
One other plus for a injected car is more time for a burger between rounds 🍔. LOL
Larry Sutton---🤠
Wi7h no disrespect Larry There is no more time for burgers -Same clutch time maybe a little more -Unhook lines Blowdown not done one alky car -rest of service time the same- plugs and valve adjustment-etc.As far as cost no cheaper One extra clutch per run And life less because of direct drive.Oh yes that drum or2 of yellow magic yes we change rods more often but thats part of the cost of the nitro valve springs not as expensive as they once were . big differe- the someone's idea to make it cost more is the blower there is a lot that trade off costs but not enough to make a big difference -and yes I have been around both. Mike Kosky p.s. some like to shift and be on time with the clutch !
 
Wi7h no disrespect Larry There is no more time for burgers -Same clutch time maybe a little more -Unhook lines Blowdown not done one alky car -rest of service time the same- plugs and valve adjustment-etc.As far as cost no cheaper One extra clutch per run And life less because of direct drive.Oh yes that drum or2 of yellow magic yes we change rods more often but thats part of the cost of the nitro valve springs not as expensive as they once were . big differe- the someone's idea to make it cost more is the blower there is a lot that trade off costs but not enough to make a big difference -and yes I have been around both. Mike Kosky p.s. some like to shift and be on time with the clutch !
Mike
Love your comments. I also loved all my years in a blown alky dragster. you also have made a million runs in one and still having fun. Good luck this year,
Larry Sutton---🤠
 
Yea, but....

While they're blowing out the fuel lines, we're changing sprags, blower belts, valve springs, rods twice as often, and soforth.

RG.
 
Yea, but....

While they're blowing out the fuel lines, we're changing sprags, blower belts, valve springs, rods twice as often, and soforth.

RG.Blower belt every 10 runs Haven't change sprags in ages Sping life is great these days Rods yes but not as many cranks
 
Randy and Mike - let me ask; what does it actually cost to campaign a top-flight car like one of Bartone's cars for a season, assuming attendance at all national events? I guessed $1 million but that may be conservative.
 
Randy and Mike - let me ask; what does it actually cost to campaign a top-flight car like one of Bartone's cars for a season, assuming attendance at all national events? I guessed $1 million but that may be conservative.
Don't want to even guess But more than any other sportsman class car that I know of- I would say a mill is on the very low side- paid crew and Boggs
 
Don't want to even guess But more than any other sportsman class car that I know of- I would say a mill is on the very low side- paid crew and Boggs

I know Bartone takes very good care of everyone involved. Did I mention, " very good care?" When Tony is happy, everyone is happy.

To answer Carl's question, 2012 was the last time I ran my own TA/FC, at the Winternationals. While we were fortunate enough to win, it was because we somehow managed to make a nickel look like a dollar, and it was expensive back then. I have an idea what the likes of Bartone might be spending now....but I bet even if I tripled my guestimate, it would still be short of reality.

You can't put a price on a good time! LOL
 
Not sure how things will shake out in TAFC, you guys know I have an A/FC so I’m anxious to see what happens in Gainesville. I do think parity can be had. The dragster class did indeed go through many years of A/F dominance, and the blown cars became real scarce. In recent years however, I’ve noticed a lot more blown alky cars in TAD, and I believe at this weekend’s Div 7 event at Firebird 8 of 12 dragsters entered are blown, with 6 of the 8 cars qualified blown alky. My point is, in a perfect world there’d be an equal amount of each combo, maybe the dragsters are getting closer to that, and the FCs have the possibility of seeing similar participation, at some point in the future.
 
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