Hight Makes Fifth Test; Drivers Cry Foul

[Pete]

Folks,

A driver has already gotten penalized this year for breaking the "rule", the same "rule" Force is being allowed to get away with.
I believe it was Houston that Terry Haddock decided to run his Funny Car because NHRA counted his match races and IHRA races as "test" sessions and he exceeded 4. SO in his own words, "if I wasn't going to get any points in TF, why not run the FC".

So, technically there is a precedence for the rule to be implemented. Now if NHRA changes the rule midstream, (WOW, what a shocker), then Terry should be compensated by the sanctioning body (which won't happen)

NHRA's rule book should, just be called a flexible rulebook that is adjusted as the situations occur.

I like Force, but I hate politics.

 

[vegasnitro]

I highly doubt that this is an issue with the Pedregons, otherwise Tony would have surely laid down and let Cruz advanced into the semi's in Brainard.

They are both struggling on the sponsorship front. Tony said after he won on Sunday that Quaker State has asked him to do more with less. CompPlus is reporting that if Cruz does not make the Countdown, he is going to park his car for the rest of the year.

 

[scsp390]

Like I was telling my father NHRA/IHRA have a Rule book. We the racer(s) are suppose to read and understand these rules that the sanctioned body organizations have instilled. It is our job and there job to make sure that rules are being followed. With that being said as an ET Super Pro/ Super Comp Racer of 5 years now and a fan/ member of the NHRA since before 1980- I have lost some respect for JFR. All the teams and drivers are supposed to be dealing from the same deck. Well if one breaks a rule there are repercussions that must follow. Apparently JFR didn't get that memo.. These next 2 NHRA races should be very INTERESTING for JFR. Just remember this word-KARMA!!!!!

 

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A: If NHRA screwed up, (and I think they did) then every "DRIVER" should get one more test day or points should be withheld.

B: Rules are written down. If this one is broken, just like any other, then it should be penalized. (Hight should recieve no points next week IMO, but I aint NHRA)

C: Scaling is a rule. That was broken. And an impromptu presser was called in the tower asking/demanding that it be ignored. So is keeping unauthorized nitro in your hauler. Lots of support for that team here when that happened.

D: Why on earth would an owner bring this argument to Nitromater without talking to NHRA first? Nitromater cant do anything for him.

E: What teams are complaining? I see 1, according to the linked article. (I am sure there are more, but they dont seem to be doing it in public)

 

[You!]

If anyone is at fault, it sure as hell isn't JFR.

They asked permission and were granted permission. They did nothing wrong.

 

[Paul]

They are both struggling on the sponsorship front. Tony said after he won on Sunday that Quaker State has asked him to do more with less. CompPlus is reporting that if Cruz does not make the Countdown, he is going to park his car for the rest of the year.

Cruz commented on Bobby's site saying there is not truth to what was in the rumor section. Cruz will be on tour for the remainder of the year. Now back to the NHRA making boneheaded decisions discussion.

 

[BSquared]

If anyone is at fault, it sure as hell isn't JFR.

They asked permission and were granted permission. They did nothing wrong.

I agree with this 100%, every race team out there has a right to be upset, and for lack of a better word jealous. Makes me wonder if anyone else even bothered asking.
Something doesn't sound right, but I am reserving judgement that maybe there is a sensible explanation. Clearly this has not come up before, and I am sure it will be addressed in the rules going forward. However you spin it though, this is not JFR cheating. They followed the rules, as they were passed down to them from the top.
Sometimes the rules come from experience. This is how rules are made. Every professional orginization in every sport looks for the loophole. If you think this only happens with NHRA, well you are wrong.

 

[Randy]

like i was telling my father nhra/ihra have a rule book. We the racer(s) are suppose to read and understand these rules that the sanctioned body organizations have instilled. It is our job and there job to make sure that rules are being followed. With that being said as an et super pro/ super comp racer of 5 years now and a fan/ member of the nhra since before 1980- i have lost some respect for jfr. All the teams and drivers are supposed to be dealing from the same deck. Well if one breaks a rule there are repercussions that must follow. Apparently jfr didn't get that memo.. These next 2 nhra races should be very interesting for jfr. Just remember this word-karma!!!!!

NHRA gave JFR permission to do what they did, therefore, JFR did not break a rule. The rule was bent. The right thing to do is allow everyone else a 5th test session without penalty.

Now back to our regularly scheduled font and color.

RG,

Drag racer for 37 years, race fan for less than one day.

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[johnny]

Randy, that's friggin hilarious! Fo'real.

 

[vegasnitro]

Standing O for Mr. Goodwin. Classic.

 

[vegasnitro]

Cruz commented on Bobby's site saying there is not truth to what was in the rumor section. Cruz will be on tour for the remainder of the year. Now back to the NHRA making boneheaded decisions discussion.

That is information that came to light after I made my post. But I am glad Cruzer is going to run out the string and there was no veracity to the rumors posted earlier on the same website ...

 

[n/a]

Now back to our regularly scheduled font and color.

RG,

Drag racer for 37 years, race fan for less than one day.

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Great, it's 8:30am on the West Coast and I have to clean the coffee off my laptop that I just spit out as I burst out laughing. Classic Randy!

 

[HEMI6point1]

If NHRA gave JFR permission to run the test, then why the fuss?

Seems like people are bashing JFR just to bash....

 

[Rajunz]

Folks,

A driver has already gotten penalized this year for breaking the "rule", the same "rule" Force is being allowed to get away with.
I believe it was Houston that Terry Haddock decided to run his Funny Car because NHRA counted his match races and IHRA races as "test" sessions and he exceeded 4. SO in his own words, "if I wasn't going to get any points in TF, why not run the FC".....................

Gary Densham drove Haddock's funny car in Houston, but regardless, if what you're saying actually did happen at a different event, it was because Haddock's Top Fuel team had already run 4 days of Top Fuel outside of the NHRA schedule, it would have had nothing to do with Terry driving the car or someone else driving it.

I agree, what's all of the fuss about anyways, Robert Hight doesn't need any practice behind the wheel, the crew chiefs and crew members are the ones that benefit from testing.

 

[club]

This was posted earlier in this thread but it needs to be posted again so here goes.

 

[haagar]

I agree, what's all of the fuss about anyways, Robert Hight doesn't need any practice behind the wheel, the crew chiefs and crew members are the ones that benefit from testing.

I agree that it is the NHRA that should be getting most of the flack, but disagree about Hight not needing to be in the car. I am sure the test was as much to get them used to each other, Hight seeing how that crew does it thing and the crew chiefs getting to see how Hight's burnout effects the tune up of the car. Hight may not need the practice, but definitely needed to be the one in the car Monday and it is the whole team that benefits.

 

[I was NITRO BREATH]

This is just SO wrong.

1) It's NOT clear that's what the rule now says, since Glendora has been mute on the subject.
2) All the other teams KNEW what the rule said and DIDN'T test because it was against the rules.
3) If it'd been DSR and not JFR, you can be sure the answer would be the other way around.
4) Two races away from the clowndown, some key teams with shaky sponsor deals are teetering on the edge of being out of it for the rest of the year -- it's not clear to me there IS a bigger problem out there.

AHA--- now we are getting into important territory. This whole mess has started because of the countdown. Hopefully this will be a big nail in the coffin for this ridiculous idea. Lets get back to a very simple concept that has made this great sport so appealing to all of the fans on this forum. REWARD EXCELLENCE.

 

[force fan]

If NHRA gave JFR permission to run the test, then why the fuss?

Seems like people are bashing JFR just to bash....

DING, DING, DING............ Your the winner!!!!!

 

[T.Smith]

If NHRA gave JFR permission to run the test, then why the fuss?

Seems like people are bashing JFR just to bash....

Yeah why the fuss. NHRA always has everyones best intentions in mind.

 

[Bowtie]

If NHRA gave JFR permission to run the test, then why the fuss?

Because if any other team would have asked do you think they would have gotten the same answer? If you do, then I refer you to the Terry Haddock interview on Comp Plus.