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Hight Makes Fifth Test; Drivers Cry Foul
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I could see it that way if the rule hadn't said "This policy applies to both the team and driver.”
force fan
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Brent,
I did not see that part so does the rule apply to any vehicle a 'pro' driver makes down the quarter mile during a particular season?
Guess there was alot of 'grey' area when the rule was written.
I am a supporter of NHRA but it seems like they are not covering every aspect of their new rules---countdown/maximum amount runs/etc...and upsetting alot of people who love the sport.
Just my $.02
I did not see that part so does the rule apply to any vehicle a 'pro' driver makes down the quarter mile during a particular season?
Guess there was alot of 'grey' area when the rule was written.
I am a supporter of NHRA but it seems like they are not covering every aspect of their new rules---countdown/maximum amount runs/etc...and upsetting alot of people who love the sport.
Just my $.02
team23rulz
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I won't bash, I just want confirmation on this. The original rule was "team and driver." It was then reinterpreted to the "car and crew chief, not the driver." My question is what do they consider the car number? in the CompPlus article, it says, "In a conversation with Anthony Vestal, NHRA Director of Media Relations, Vestal confirmed that the test being conducted is being charged against the #7 team and is not a violation of the testing rule. 'This is a test being conducted by the #7 team, as you call it, the driver is irrelevant.'" You see, in Reading, the #4 has to be on the side of whatever car Robert Hight is driving. The #7 is on the side of whatever car John Force is driving. The car number goes with the driver, not the body of the car nor the chassis of the car. It just doesn't all add up no matter which way you spin it.
Here is another issue that people say is irrelevant, but I don't believe it is. Let's say Del Worsham has been doing a shabby job of driving, he's tested 4 times and can't test anymore. He doesn't have a teammates car to jump in to work on his driving skills. With that in mind, I think the driver as well as the team should be limited to the same number of days, as the original rule states.
It's a "what if" situation. Don't bash me about using Del's name, I think he's a great driver.
Here is another issue that people say is irrelevant, but I don't believe it is. Let's say Del Worsham has been doing a shabby job of driving, he's tested 4 times and can't test anymore. He doesn't have a teammates car to jump in to work on his driving skills. With that in mind, I think the driver as well as the team should be limited to the same number of days, as the original rule states.
It's a "what if" situation. Don't bash me about using Del's name, I think he's a great driver.
team23rulz
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Just wanted to add to what I said earlier.
1. JFR isn't to fault, they asked and played by the rules they were told.
2. NHRA should have told competitors about the apparent "typo" before Hight ever made a pass in John's car.
3. The point of the rule was to lower cost, not really to punish teams for testing. It makes more since for the rule to go with the team, not the driver (even though the rule states both).
Another question I have to ask is this: What if Prock was in the trailer looking at data and getting advice from Berine and Coil? This would sway everything back to the original team problem. I've noticed that everyone in the Force camp except Ashely is running the new Ford motor. Prock, as well as Coil, have struggled with the new combination. There could have been a big meeting of minds in Brainerd to figure it out.
If someone has the facts, please tell me, because I'm just going off of what I've seen on the cars and my assumptions. I'm more interested in knowing the facts and getting opinions on new ideas rather than beating up the same old subject.
1. JFR isn't to fault, they asked and played by the rules they were told.
2. NHRA should have told competitors about the apparent "typo" before Hight ever made a pass in John's car.
3. The point of the rule was to lower cost, not really to punish teams for testing. It makes more since for the rule to go with the team, not the driver (even though the rule states both).
Another question I have to ask is this: What if Prock was in the trailer looking at data and getting advice from Berine and Coil? This would sway everything back to the original team problem. I've noticed that everyone in the Force camp except Ashely is running the new Ford motor. Prock, as well as Coil, have struggled with the new combination. There could have been a big meeting of minds in Brainerd to figure it out.
If someone has the facts, please tell me, because I'm just going off of what I've seen on the cars and my assumptions. I'm more interested in knowing the facts and getting opinions on new ideas rather than beating up the same old subject.
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1. Terry is the 2008 IHRA F/C champ so he does know how to race; even if it means he is his own crew chief, bottom end, clutch guy and truck driver.
2. We don't race on paper. We race on the track.
3. What does your perception of Terry's competitiveness have to do with the NHRA's ever changing rule book?
To steal a JRF-ism, the bottom line is the rules aren't the same for everyone.
Do ya think Force has a pic of Light cheating on his wife????
Yeah, and he's in it...
Terry
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Hmmm, lets see...maybe by hiring Tony Pedregon to dive for him for two or three seasons??????
Jenn
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Bummer, I saw your name as the last poster and hoped you'd gone a derail....
Hi Terry! Where's my popcorn?
Bross Hawg
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Hmmm...last I checked, IHRA isn't NHRA. Just ask Clay Millican.
BlueStangGT
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Let's see, if memory serves T-Ped won his first championship under the Force banner, no? Not bad for a dive team.
Pretty disappointing post, Terry.
luxexpress
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I guess their events shouldn't could as testing then.
BTW, I don't think there is anyone out there right now that works as hard, and gets as much out of as little as Terry Haddock. He should be VERY proud of his IHRA Championship, and he should not have been docked points.
I was NITRO BREATH
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so this is turning into a discussion on the talents of Terry haddock and the worthiness of an IHRA championship??? I thought we are focusing on JF and the NHRA
??? I thought we are focusing on JF and the NHRA
Terry
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Absolutely correct, Tom, and I think Tony is one heck of a racer. And I respect you as a friend and a poster, so I am sorry my post disappointed you, but I do actually believe there were numerous instances when Tony "underperformed" to John's benefit in the years preceding the championship years. I can't prove it, of course, but I am just basing my belief on the things I saw during that time. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and you are certainly entitled to not agreeing with me. As long as you are just disappointed in my post and don't see it as a personal deal, I'm ok with that. AND thanks to you, my OU friend, for not calling me an idiot as Mr. Holland chose to do...although I am not a JFR supporter (and have made no secret of it) I don't believe that qualifies me as an idiot, and if memory serves, I haven't called anyone names whose opinions differ from mine, as Mr. Holland has chosen to do. And if we're still friends, Tom, how are the Sooners looking for this season?
Terry
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Nope, Jenn, no derail--just setting myself up to be called names by another poster, I guess. And the popcorn is about three weeks from harvest, so you really will get some nice fresh popcorn on the ear this year, I promise! (but I guess I'm an Idiot, so who knows if I can figure out how to send it to you or not...
BlueStangGT
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No prob, man... just thought that the dive comment was both unwarranted and uncharacteristic of your normal offerings.
Sooners are gonna roll this year, right up until they go under the wheels of the Gator bus.
