Does firebird have to go?

[Bob K.]

I talked to a couple of crew members of pro teams along with top dragster racers and they said the VHT traction compound is now WATER BASED. I guess the alcohal based wasn't "enviromently friendly" I wonder how many more cars will crash before they say enough?

 

[the zone]

Darr, check what you write, as a so called drag racing aficionado, where did you ever read that Ron was a part of Mission Raceway. He is from a different Province, and the only ties he has to Mission, is his funny car flies there. He is a partner at Edmonton.

Dean

 

[rocketman]

I talked to a couple of crew members of pro teams along with top dragster racers and they said the VHT traction compound is now WATER BASED. I guess the alcohal based wasn't "enviromently friendly" I wonder how many more cars will crash before they say enough?

The answer would be a bunch.

 

[The Fish]

I am not here to bash on anyone or put blame on anyone i am just saying someting i noticed over the weekend in phx! The one thing i noticed when they were doing track prep that i found kinda weird is they were draggin the track with the tractor as always and the spraying the new vht form$ula which while i was talking to one of the fuel drivers watching this we found weird because they used to drag the track with the tractor like 2 passes then spray the drag again after the spray! Just found it odd especially if its a water base that you wouldnt drag after you spray the track to help but idk i am not a expert just a driver lol!

 

[Draw 3D]

I fixed it for ya Paul.

Don't change what I post and then put it in a quotation block!

I posted what I meant, I meant what I posted!

Firebird is not just fast for the fuel cars, many Sportsmen classes have made excellent runs.

 

[club]

Some of the articles I read said the PS cars need more stick to the track and the fuel cars need less because the fuel cars have more downforce. So how about letting the PS cars have more downforce. Wouldn't this let the fuel cars and PS be happy with a similar track prep?

 

[the zone]

Sorry Paul but that is a stretch for sportsman cars. I bet no car (other than a few fuel cars) have had career bests at Firebird if they get a chance to race on at least three or four other national event tracks.

For sure quicker
Seattle
Sonoma
Pomona
Englishtown
Gainesville
Maple Grove
Chicago
Dallas
Houston
Richmond (ya I know its ihra now)

Likely quicker
Charlotte
Topeka
Indy
Norwalk

These four tracks if run the same time of year would be substancially quicker than Firturd.

Dean

 

[sparky]

First off i'm no expert in pro stock ,but couldn't they have put more wing angle on cars and different springs or adust valving so it would be stiffer down track to handle more downforce to cars to get them through that point on track ? I understand the bump unloads the cars but ?

 

[Rooster]

With a unanimous vote on Tuesday, Spokane County Commissioners have opened negotiations with Ron Hodgson (Mission Raceway) and Charlie Allen (Firebird International Raceway) to take over operation of Spokane Raceway Park for the next ten years... in Drag Racing Online!

Now your talkin', put Spokane on the swing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[FABMAN]

Some of the articles I read said the PS cars need more stick to the track and the fuel cars need less because the fuel cars have more downforce. So how about letting the PS cars have more downforce. Wouldn't this let the fuel cars and PS be happy with a similar track prep?

Jim, there's very little clearance for rear tires on the P.S. cars and adding more down force causes tires to rub fenders.

 

[JL]

I would like to see someone bring Speedworld Raceway Park up to National Event status... It would take a lot of money, but I think it would be better to just start over with a new facility in the Phoenix area rather than Firebird...

 

[sparky]

Jim, there's very little clearance for rear tires on the P.S. cars and adding more down force causes tires to rub fenders.

Stiffer springs/valving ?

 

[vegasnitro]

Stiffer springs/valving ?

Just doing some "keyboard crew-chiefing" here ... but I think stiffer suspension would exascerbate the problem as it would take still more downforce to get the suspension to work optimally. Plus, the stiffer the suspension, the more the bump would upset the rear of the car, as there is less compliance.

 

[The Fish]

Some of the articles I read said the PS cars need more stick to the track and the fuel cars need less because the fuel cars have more downforce. So how about letting the PS cars have more downforce. Wouldn't this let the fuel cars and PS be happy with a similar track prep?

They actually did let the ps cars adjust the wing here in phx to put more downforce on the cars but as someone said there is very little clearence on those cars and it was actually rubbin really bad in the fender!

 

[mltdwn12]

Bring back Beeline Raceway!

Froggy Bottom

 

[Curt]

Froggy Bottom

Froggy Bottom!!!! now theres an old time local racer. those were the days

 

[None]

With a unanimous vote on Tuesday, Spokane County Commissioners have opened negotiations with Ron Hodgson (Mission Raceway) and Charlie Allen (Firebird International Raceway) to take over operation of Spokane Raceway Park for the next ten years... in Drag Racing Online!

It's good news that what is the best race track in the West is going to be back in action. With a few more bucks, SRP could be the finest facility West of the Rockies. I personally would have much preferred to have Jay Livingston be the new proprietor over Charlie Allen, but at least we can go racing it appears.

 

[You!]

And the fun at Firebird continues!

PHOENIX - Delay for Track Conditions

Heard they've been down over 3 hours trying to prep the track as some of the super comp cars were having issues with that left lane.

 

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And the fun at Firebird continues!

PHOENIX - Delay for Track Conditions

Heard they've been down over 3 hours trying to prep the track as some of the super comp cars were having issues with that left lane.

Dave Kommel posted on FaceBook about 30 minutes ago

Well, they have given up on trying to get the national event done this weekend and will now concentrate on just the points race!

 

[Raconteur]

Firebird, tires & wheels and stuff from a couple of people who LIKE motorsports and drag racing...

Louis Brewster

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