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Mike said:
Alan, just a couple questions-
1) Could you point out specifically what Jon Asher was incorrect about at the time his article was published?
2) Is it true or untrue that a number of sports leagues, including motorsports leagues NASCAR and IndyCar, were on a call with the President while NHRA was absent?
3) Is it true or untrue that Sports Business Journal has been publishing updates from numerous sporting leagues, but per Asher's research as of last Friday, NHRA had nothing to say for 22 days?
4) Is it true or untrue that NHRA furloughed PR personnel?

Regarding motorsports, while NHRA will never get the live, in person attendance of the Indy 500 or Daytona 500, I've been to NASCAR races in recent years where a Friday NHRA crowd would be larger than the Friday NASCAR Xfinity race crowd, and if one combined the Friday/Saturday Nascar crowd and compared to the Friday/Saturday/Sunday NHRA crowd, the total NASCAR crowd may be larger, but not necessarily as much as one would think (depending on the track). Outside of Indy 500 and road/street courses, I'd wager NHRA outdraws any other IndyCar oval track for a weekend.

My point is similar to Asher's point- If NHRA is the "major league" of drag racing, and in the top three or four of all US motorsports organizations, then the amount and frequency of media output should match that (alleged) status.
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Michael,

I'm not going line by line, but let me ask you this. What did Jon's column do to help? Over the years he seems to go out of his way to bash NHRA whenever he can. If NHRA makes a mistake (and they have just like any company has) Jon has always been quick to point it out. Even when he often has the advantage of 20-20 hindsight. And Jon and I have has this conversation face to face more than once, this isn't something that I wouldn't say directly to him. This is something I have said directly to him.

My first post on this subject said just that, Jon was bashing NHRA and that hardly qualifies to me as big news, for him it's business as usual.

Jon knows how to generate clicks, that's his job. And he knows that bashing NHRA will generate clicks. So I guess for him, mission accomplished. But again, for a guy who claims to love Drag Racing, and who has made a very nice living off of it for over 50 years. What did he do to help?

Alan
 
I stopped reading Asher articles a long time ago. They're basically all the same thing, just re-worked slightly to fit the current circumstances. There's enough negativity around that's unavoidable, so why willingly add to it?

Side note: just for fun, I took a look through the last several years of CP editorials (lots of free time right now). Asher hasn't put out a whole lot, but every single one is a bashing article. It's ok to be the guy who calls a spade a spade, but never acknowledging when someone does something right ruins credibility (and NHRA does do plenty right, even if it's not in the most visible way).
 
Alan Reinhart is correct, most of Asher's commentaries are about Slammin' the nhra in some fashion. The interesting thing is Alan does the same thing, only in the opposite direction. I don't blame Alan R. one bit, for backing up or defending his employer and posting a negative opinion, on a public forum could be career suicide, but to call out Asher because he repeatedly has a negative opinion, seems very hypocritical to me! it's kinda like Kim Kardashian complaining that Paris Hilton doesn't really have any Talent ! I enjoy reading both Alan and Ashers comments, but based on their history, i don't take either of their words as Gospel.
 
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Michael,

I'm not going line by line, but let me ask you this. What did Jon's column do to help? Over the years he seems to go out of his way to bash NHRA whenever he can. If NHRA makes a mistake (and they have just like any company has) Jon has always been quick to point it out. Even when he often has the advantage of 20-20 hindsight. And Jon and I have has this conversation face to face more than once, this isn't something that I wouldn't say directly to him. This is something I have said directly to him.

My first post on this subject said just that, Jon was bashing NHRA and that hardly qualifies to me as big news, for him it's business as usual.

Jon knows how to generate clicks, that's his job. And he knows that bashing NHRA will generate clicks. So I guess for him, mission accomplished. But again, for a guy who claims to love Drag Racing, and who has made a very nice living off of it for over 50 years. What did he do to help?

Alan
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Jon Asher does it for LOVE. There are others out there, who do the same. It's a shame they aren't working in Glendora. :(
 
The one thing I am seeing is a LOT of replays on TV of prior races!

If you can't have new ones yet, then they are smart in replaying the old ones to stay in front of those who watch the shows!
 
TD5023 said:
I stopped reading Asher articles a long time ago. They're basically all the same thing, just re-worked slightly to fit the current circumstances. There's enough negativity around that's unavoidable, so why willingly add to it?

Side note: just for fun, I took a look through the last several years of CP editorials (lots of free time right now). Asher hasn't put out a whole lot, but every single one is a bashing article. It's ok to be the guy who calls a spade a spade, but never acknowledging when someone does something right ruins credibility (and NHRA does do plenty right, even if it's not in the most visible way).
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Brad, were the bullet points I listed in the reply to Alan true or untrue? Regardless of Asher's position in prior commentaries, if those items are factually true, then his points regarding lack of media output are 100% spot on.
 
Mike said:
Brad, were the bullet points I listed in the reply to Alan true or untrue? Regardless of Asher's position in prior commentaries, if those items are factually true, then his points regarding lack of media output are 100% spot on.
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I can't comment on those because I haven't paid all that much attention to the national body. Most of the information relevant to me comes from lower down the ladder (specifically, divisional offices and the tracks themselves), which have been fairly active in keeping us up-to-date on the current situation. All four of those points could be true and valid criticism. My point is that when you've picked up a reputation for never being positive, I'm less inclined to take your (constant) negative views seriously. For that matter, there could also be acceptable reasons behind each bullet point. I'm not saying there are, but I hardly trust someone like Asher to include anything that might keep NHRA from looking like the bad guys.

(Cue Mark Breznay disagree)
 
Mike said:
Brad, were the bullet points I listed in the reply to Alan true or untrue? Regardless of Asher's position in prior commentaries, if those items are factually true, then his points regarding lack of media output are 100% spot on.
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Your argument falls apart at the get go because NHRA is not in the same league as NASCAR, Indycar, MLB, et al. You're carrying Jon Asher's water because even he knows this to be true and the article was created to be "edgy" or "critical" but falls flat. This is the same outlet whose editor came out to say how he contracted COVID-19, how bad it is and that it's real, but then failed to ask Bill Bader Jr. why he thought it was a vast conspiracy. I don't understand why it's OK to call out Peter Clifford but not Bill Bader - people play favorites and it is what it is.

NHRA doesn't have the luxury of having a product that translates to TV like MLB, NASCAR, etc, and their revenue stream is fundamentally different. MLB can play to empty stadiums with only the players and essential personnel on the field. NASCAR can run a race with the "big show" cars and crew in an empty speedway. Both can have telecasts and actually make money on the broadcast. NHRA, on the other hand, depends on entry fees and gate concessions and (from what I understand) actually loses money on the TV broadcast. In other words, unlike the other sports, NHRA requires thousands of people because the sportsman classes are an important cog in NHRA's financial machine..

NHRA is being prudent and will run races 1.) when the states allow and 2.) when it makes sense financially to do so.

At the end of the day this is a whole lot of whining about absolutely nothing.
 
TD5023 said:
I can't comment on those because I haven't paid all that much attention to the national body. Most of the information relevant to me comes from lower down the ladder (specifically, divisional offices and the tracks themselves), which have been fairly active in keeping us up-to-date on the current situation. All four of those points could be true and valid criticism. My point is that when you've picked up a reputation for never being positive, I'm less inclined to take your (constant) negative views seriously. For that matter, there could also be acceptable reasons behind each bullet point. I'm not saying there are, but I hardly trust someone like Asher to include anything that might keep NHRA from looking like the bad guys.

(Cue Mark Breznay disagree)
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Did you know Jon Asher once owned a Top Fuel dragster?
 
SundayNiagara said:
Did you know Jon Asher once owned a Top Fuel dragster?
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Glad to see you didn't disappoint on the disagree :)

No, I didn't know that. However, that doesn't change my opinion of his writing. He's certainly entitled to his views, and obviously his columns generate traffic, but they still come off as overwhelmingly and unnecessarily negative. If I need a mood killer, I'll just go to Facebook.
 
SundayNiagara said:
Did you know Jon Asher once owned a Top Fuel dragster?
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What does that have to do with anything, though? I'd be more impressed if he has actually ever been chief executive of a $100MM+ entity.

I mean I owned a Dodge but I'm not telling them how to sell cars during this time.
 
TD5023 said:
Glad to see you didn't disappoint on the disagree :)

No, I didn't know that. However, that doesn't change my opinion of his writing. He's certainly entitled to his views, and obviously his columns generate traffic, but they still come off as overwhelmingly and unnecessarily negative. If I need a mood killer, I'll just go to Facebook.
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I have a better idea. Just don't read his posts and you won't learn anything. Stick to AR. :D
 
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