Cheaters Or Hard Workers (1 Viewer)

[Buzzz Miller]

We learned some really scary things with a certain yellow oil car moons ago. And that is, NHRA may catch you cheating again and again, (something like four times in seven races), but none of us will find out about it. It will never be announced, nor enforced. To add injury to that insult, it appears that depending on your sponsor, the car will still run with absolutely no consequences. Till the cheating is exposed in a way that even the NHRA cannot hide it, (ie. nitrous explosions in oil tanks), then they will look like they are tough on cheaters. *Ohh P-Lease!*
As for me and only me, I have lost all faith in finding out if someone is cheating by the NHRA announcements of such.

 

[stanman]

... then they will look like they are tough on cheaters. *Ohh P-Lease!*
As for me and only me, I have lost all faith in finding out if someone is cheating by the NHRA announcements of such.

Unless you run in a sportsman category. Then NHRA makes up bullshit rules so they can say, "look, we're doing something about cheaters." When in fact, all they've done is screwed everyone that was running legit and the rule change did absolutely nothing!!

 

[jpee]

I agree with the above post.. but getting up early on Sat morning won't help in TESTING... I think its the mid week track testing that has a lot to do with their sucsess..

 

[Rollout96]

It's called the Tall Poppy Syndrome.

Mark.

Yeah... Unfortunately in almost EVERY sport the dominate team/person/whatever will usually be suspected of cheating. Of course many times it is true but certainly not in every case.

I just think in this case the rest of the field has (almost) caught up with the talent of the Anderson/Line team.

 

[Rocketman 207]

I agree with the above post.. but... I think its the mid week track testing that has a lot to do with their success..

And having enough funds to do all that testing on a regular basis!

 

[stanman]

I agree with the above post.. but getting up early on Sat morning won't help in TESTING... I think its the mid week track testing that has a lot to do with their sucsess..

That was really the point of my post... that they work harder than anybody else. That includes all the testing they do at Mooresville during the week.

 

["Dr. Dirt"]

Although it's incredibly difficult to determine who is "Working the Hardest," I believe it would be a slap in the face of almost every competitive Pro Stock team to say others are working harder than they are. They may have more financial resources which equates to more personnel. They may be financially capable of monopolizing one of the better fabricators such as "Wilson Manifolds" with their purse. They may be able to nearly own their own track and set up shop nearby to reduce testing costs but I'd really be surprised if any of you would be kidding yourselves into believing that the Summit team works harder than say a Greg Stanfield.

The next part of the puzzle is the fact that there is no cheating until there is a rule that has been broken. Innovations have been called cheating for years but they aren't cheating at all until the rule book excludes such innovations. In recent years there have been a number of new Pro Stock rules implemented as a result of one's advantage from such innovations. Some could argue that with the MSD box manipulations alone, entire championships have been won and lost. The fact is that there are now rules in place where there weren't clear-cut steadfast rules prior.
Will such innovations continue?
I'd bet the farm!
Will there be additional rule changes as a result?
See my previous answer.
If you think this past few years has been tough on the class, wait until they introduce EFI. Talk about a tech nightmare? They will be confiscating laptops in the lanes and hunting chips in driver's clothing.

 

[john]

If you think this past few years has been tough on the class, wait until they introduce EFI. Talk about a tech nightmare? They will be confiscating laptops in the lanes and hunting chips in driver's clothing.

What would they be checking, the software? Would everyone have to run "spec" hardware and/or software? Just curious as I think everyone runs the same carbs, is that the case?

 

[Rocketman 207]

They may have more financial resources...They may be financially capable of monopolizing one of the better fabricators...They may be able to nearly own their own track and set up shop nearby...but I'd really be surprised if any of you would be kidding yourselves into believing that the Summit team works harder than say a Greg Stanfield.

Couldn't have said it better myself, Bobby!

 

[nitro-trucker]

I didn't mean to insult any teams. I was just asking because of all the actuations thrown at at the SUMMIT TEAM. I would think that everyone has to work very hard just to be outthere.

 

[Rocketman 207]

I would think that everyone has to work very hard just to be outthere.

Yep, that's a given!

 

[jpee]

Why don't NHRA just build all the PS cars themselves, paint them different colors, & let the drivers pick a # out of a hat to see who get which car.. ya know like in the IROC series... that would put a quick stop to all teams trying to be innovative... prevent big $$ teams from having any advantage, & not but not least.. Take All The Fun & Excitement Out Of PS

 

["Dr. Dirt"]

I'd prefer to see NHRA allow a myriad of innovations so the thinkers could be rewarded for their genius but the victor with the spoils would, once again, be the richest man in the end.

 

[__]

For the record, I believe there are several teams who receive similar or better financial support from their sponsors. Money doesn't guarantee any level of success, let alone "buy" championships. Quite frankly that's an absurd statement. For their efforts over the last 4 years, KB Racing has earned an ever-increasing number of insults, allegations and disparaging comments. They've also earned 3 championships. Hopefully, 2006 will bring the fourth. Best of luck at Memphis, KB Racing.

 

[Nazgul]

I don't think NHRA is quite there yet, but similar to what F1 needs to do, limit what you're able to spend in R & D, but don't limit genius innovations.

 

[Joker]

The NHRA can limit whatever they want to, there is till tons of ways around it. Force, Shoe, Black, Kalitta, etc they will all spend what they want to regardless of what NHRA tells them to in my opinion anyways.

 

[Nazgul]

The NHRA can limit whatever they want to, there is till tons of ways around it. Force, Shoe, Black, Kalitta, etc they will all spend what they want to regardless of what NHRA tells them to in my opinion anyways.

Maybe you're right Justin. I don't want a limit on innovation in drag racing, but if by chance you could somewhat limit spending, then teams would have to pick and choose which innovations to pursue.

In the end though, the teams with money (like you said) will still probably find a way around any limitations, and the little guys will still be at a disadvantage.

Oh well... next suggestion.