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Army Top fuel car and Nascar
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clwill
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True dat.
nitro-trucker
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Money for this stuff is not from the gov. The Army earns the money them self
timebombkal
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How ?
HEMI6point1
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Percboy
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Not from the government? Army "earns" it?
Where do you think it comes from, car washes and bake sales?
Professor Dave
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And you are probably one of those people who wants the government to keep its hands off of Medicare.
mw6789
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One of my good customers from the local Air Force base called me yesterday afternoon and said dont expect many customers from the base, because they werent getting paid. He came in this morning and said now that the govt avoided the shut down, the web site they can go on to check their pay status (for the 15th of the month) shows under maintanence. Yesterday it was just blank.
Jim
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and the PHONY CHOICES will continue
......see this week's Time Magazine.............
Federal Budget: Don't Cut Funding for Homeless Veterans - TIME
As if there's a choice of helping the poor vet or DSR........
......see this week's Time Magazine.............
Federal Budget: Don't Cut Funding for Homeless Veterans - TIME
As if there's a choice of helping the poor vet or DSR........
SundayNiagara
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I know I am!
I'd guess your not on Medicare. If they want to change it the people who depend on it should have had a bundle of advanced notice so WE could prepare for an alternative health care insurance. I know I paid for it out of every paycheck since it's inception. I might add not paying for it was not a option.
The term "government shutdown" is phony. Had it occurred, perhaps 20% of the government would have been shut temporarily. Parks, museums and such.
This is the first time in the long history of these alleged shutdowns that the Presidential Administration has failed to issue an Executive Order to pay the troops. So, the non-payment of the troops issue was a phony, as well.
Cheers,
Ed
This is the first time in the long history of these alleged shutdowns that the Presidential Administration has failed to issue an Executive Order to pay the troops. So, the non-payment of the troops issue was a phony, as well.
Cheers,
Ed
Jim
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I love how folks (esp Libs in an attempt to marginalize conseravatives) toss that Medicare line around as a pejorative.
We DON'T and we DIDN'T have a CHOICE.
The biggest thing that burns me up about the entire SS System: They spent the damned money! If the system was actuarily sound, cost and expectations would have been adjusted over the years.
Going forward (especially for the younger folks) we can't be keeping our heads in the sand.Certainly some of the so-called conservative plans are going to deal with that issue honestly.
Let;s see how the voters deal with being treated as adults.
Professor Dave
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You understand that Medicare is a government program!
Professor Dave
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I appreciate Jim's point of view, although SS is in much better shape than Medicare. Furthermore fixing SS is much easier since there are lots of ways to do so.
Medicare is a problem for lots of reasons. First, people have gotten back much more in benefits than they have paid in. Second, insurance companies are not going to sell a lot of health care policies to old people because old people get sick-the problem of adverse selection really applies to old people. But Medicare's fundamental problem is that health care costs are rising so fast. Americans pay for health care for the most part through third parties (insurance companies or the government), so since the price for a particular procedure paid by an individual is so much less than the price received by the health care provider (hospital or doctor or whomever), we don't have much of an incentive to get providers to keep down costs. Seriously, if we knew we'd have to pay the full price for heart bypass surgery, we'd eat better and exercise more or have fewer bypass surgeries. Finally, if Medicare is cut, are you really going to let your parents or grandparents go without the best medical care you can afford? Not likely. So if the government doesn't pay the medical care of old people, the people's families will. So old single guys like me are the only people really at risk if Medicare is cut, which will make it difficult politically to cut Medicare. So solving the problem of Medicare really involves getting health care costs under control. One thing i think we need to figure out is how to pay for health care output (what you get) as opposed to inputs (how much time is used by doctors, nurses, etc,) so that health care providers would have more incentives to control costs. I know if I eat at In-N-Out I pay for the burger, not how much time was spent making it. If In-N-Out doesn't control the costs of making a burger, we'd have to go to Micky D's and that is really a sickening thought!
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After I read this post I can to the conclusion that assisted sucide would be a better option. Let's just knock off the old folks and be done with it, no Medicare and then there is no argument as how treat old people in America. To control the the cost of medical is the biggest issue in not only Medicare but in the private sector too. I'm not smart enough to know where to start but at the current rates health care in America be for the rich and famous and the rest of us will just have to have a good burial plan. Colonial Penn seems like a vialbe choice.
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The Swegian
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Still trying to understand how medicare relates to drag racing.
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