Top 12 carry over issue

[Billy]

I don't understand - this rule was put into service because teams were complaining about fields being set in the night session and not being able to qualify in the daytime sessions (mainly for Pro Stock I believe at the time, but regardless). Now Tony Pedregon is complaining about this rule on ESPN TV coverage? I don't understand - can they make up their minds?

The rules are the rules - if I was a low budget team, I wouldn't bother making a run on Friday and just run on Saturday when the conditions are (historically) more equal and there are 4 additional open spots.

 

[TooTall999]

I thought the whole idea was to help the low budget teams by keeping the field from being set in the Friday night hero session. My feelings are if you want to race, you have to race within the rules and be able to run the number. Ever since T-Ped left Force racing, he's been whining about the poor, underprivileged racers. Funny he didn't say anything when Force was paying his bills.

 

[PJ]

There were a few cars that sat out different sessions at Indy over the weekend

 

[Clark W.]

Tony was whining like a little girl. I wondered how many times this rule has helped him over the years. I'm sure he is embarrassed as the only car not getting to race on Monday. But he did have 5 chances like everyone else.
I also think the rule is confusing and not needed, but don't whine about it.

 

[Just Paul]

Brained comes to mind for me. Friday, first session, maybe even the first pair. Brian Stewart and Dale Creasy run 4.37 and 4.25 nice and clean right down there, a great baseline to start with. They had 2 chances on Saturday to improve and "threw up" as some would say both runs. They both had 2 shots to run better than 5.00. I love Brian Stewart and Dale Creasy, but if you have 2 chances to run better than 5.00 and can't do it, you should not get to run no matter what you did the day before.

 

[parrotwhisperer]

One of the drivers mentioned "if it rains we're good" meaning if it rains they take the quick 16 even if they have only had one session. Was that Tony? I understand if you run a time on Friday that didn't make the top 12 but turns out would have made the show it is tough to take. Been there. So. Live with it. It is a good rule that helps more than it hurts.

 

[PJ]

Brained comes to mind for me. Friday, first session, maybe even the first pair. Brian Stewart and Dale Creasy run 4.37 and 4.25 nice and clean right down there, a great baseline to start with. They had 2 chances on Saturday to improve and "threw up" as some would say both runs. They both had 2 shots to run better than 5.00. I love Brian Stewart and Dale Creasy, but if you have 2 chances to run better than 5.00 and can't do it, you should not get to run no matter what you did the day before.

They did run quicker than 5. Sadly it happen on the wrong day.

I want the quickest ones there to run for the money on Sunday. I don't care when they ran it.

 

[kansasnitro54]

Ill agree with that PJ!

 

[mick]

with 16-17 car fields the rule seems a little ridiculous.....but the 23 TF'rs at indy it provides 4 spots for 11 cars instead
of old format there would be only 7 cars trying to bump into 16 car show.
so in a sense to the fan in the bleacher, the rule provides more cars vying for 4 spots than the old format.
low fields....no big deal
18+ cars....it's a little more interesting on saturday.

 

[None]

I do not believe the rule was put in to save money for the small teams. I think it was put in to force the small teams to run on Saturday and not sit out if they got a good time Friday night.

 

[PJ]

Actually I think it was put in place to protect the money teams who blow it on a sweet Friday night session. They(and their sponsors) don't want to be sitting out on Sunday if qualifying becomes an unbalanced 1 great session and 2-3 ok ones (conditions wise).

While I'd prefer top 16 period, I can understand the reasons beyond this. I'd rather see them set 1-8 on Friday and 9-16 on Saturday. That would make for some interesting first round match ups come Sunday then

 

[my friends call me Zappy]

All 16 spots should be available all 4 Q's. Each team has the same chance, every session, doesn't mater what day, what time of day.
Not counting a run, just because it would seat you 13th on Fri. makes no sense.

 

[Jimbo]

Paul wrote the following, All 16 spots should be available all 4 Q's. Each team has the same chance, every session, doesn't mater what day, what time of day.

I agree with you. Amen.

Jimbo

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