Bill, I remember hearing about John Shoemaker but what circumstances are you referring too? As for Bobby's deal I did see on DRC that he was only(?) going 180 MPH when he went through the lights on this pass. When Scott was Killed everyone blamed the speeds of the cars before anything else!
I got a PM explaining the John Shoemaker ordeal so sorry for any missunderstanding! And Yes I think Bill's correct on this issue!