silly season continues

[mick]

Not sure how it happens but I think Bobby Bode wins a race this year.

i would bet against it. i also hope karma kicks me in the *ss, in brainerd.

 

[z28]

i would bet against it. i also hope karma kicks me in the *ss, in brainerd.

He has a better chance in IHRA for sure

 

[ironpony]

He has a better chance in IHRA for sure

everyone does that shows up and better purse to boot. The dominate NHRA teams are not going to run IHRA so the smaller guys are far better off there. This year is going to be very interesting IMO.

 

[sammi]

Anyone notice that the two fuel class champions happen to either manufacture parts themselves or someone close to the team manufactures parts.

 

[yoda]

I look forward to seeing what technology Ford F1 and LeMans brings to Tasca/Prock, and how long it takes NHRA to find it and determine that it is "outside of the spirit of the rules"... With that kind of data in the hands of 1320 engineers, just an adjustment of an angle could be worth a couple of hundreths, either in the way the parts work, or more importantly, how the parts work with the driver... #RT

 

[tb]

I look forward to seeing what technology Ford F1 and LeMans brings to Tasca/Prock, and how long it takes NHRA to find it and determine that it is "outside of the spirit of the rules"... With that kind of data in the hands of 1320 engineers, just an adjustment of an angle could be worth a couple of hundreths, either in the way the parts work, or more importantly, how the parts work with the driver... #RT

Just remember with that technology comes a price increase. Their engine is mostly just electronics for the Redbull Bull Power System, RedBull has their own in house engine program for 2 teams,

The Le Mans entry is in house and is not cheap. This is high tech stuff, and just not putting a 351 in the back of a car.

Probably have to ask Alan about the engine stuff, but I think most of the parameters of a Fuel Motor are in the regulations, precisely to keep guys from spending too much money.

 

[ironpony]

Well F1 is now 50-50 renewable gas and electric so be careful there. We might wind up with electric powered dragsters...........that would definitely reduce costs

 

[yoda]

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Probably have to ask Alan about the engine stuff, but I think most of the parameters of a Fuel Motor are in the regulations, precisely to keep guys from spending too much money.

As I recall, the biggest "frowned upon" things on the past few years have been miniscule mods that were caught due to.... well, snitches, supposedly.
Manifold mods, injector hat mods, header layback mods... all which probably would have rolled on unnoticed had it been gradual performance improvement. Was it BT3 that had body issues that initially made it through the template (or was that the Mustaro?)

 

[Litefoot]

I look forward to seeing what technology Ford F1 and LeMans brings to Tasca/Prock, and how long it takes NHRA to find it and determine that it is "outside of the spirit of the rules"... With that kind of data in the hands of 1320 engineers, just an adjustment of an angle could be worth a couple of hundreths, either in the way the parts work, or more importantly, how the parts work with the driver... #RT

I think for quite some time that F-1 has used over head cam designs, be interesting to see what they can do with a center cam motor with lifters and push rods

 

[Vdubman]

As I recall, the biggest "frowned upon" things on the past few years have been miniscule mods that were caught due to.... well, snitches, supposedly.
Manifold mods, injector hat mods, header layback mods... all which probably would have rolled on unnoticed had it been gradual performance improvement. Was it BT3 that had body issues that initially made it through the template (or was that the Mustaro?)

I remember, I think it was the end of the 2024 season, at Las Vegas where Bob Tasca and a few others got pinched for their car width being like 1/4 of an inch too much. When they interviewed him he insinuated that Jim Prock tattled too if I remember right. Bob has always had a fiery personality so I’m interested to see where this all goes if the rumors are true.

 

[ironpony]

I think for quite some time that F-1 has used over head cam designs, be interesting to see what they can do with a center cam motor with lifters and push rods

They are staying with OHC, they also use pneumatics in place of springs to close the valves


How the Pneumatic System Works

• Camshaft Action: The camshaft pushes down on the valve, similar to a normal engine.
• Pressurized Nitrogen: Instead of a spring, a small cylinder containing pressurized nitrogen (around 10 bar) acts as the spring.
• Valve Return: When the camshaft lobe moves away, the compressed nitrogen pushes the valve back to its closed position rapidly and consistently.
• Nitrogen Benefits: Nitrogen's stable density at high temperatures maintains consistent pressure, preventing valve float and corrosion.
• Pressure Release: A small valve releases excess pressure or oil buildup, ensuring proper function.

 

[Litefoot]

They are staying with OHC, they also use pneumatics in place of springs to close the valves


How the Pneumatic System Works

• Camshaft Action: The camshaft pushes down on the valve, similar to a normal engine.
• Pressurized Nitrogen: Instead of a spring, a small cylinder containing pressurized nitrogen (around 10 bar) acts as the spring.
• Valve Return: When the camshaft lobe moves away, the compressed nitrogen pushes the valve back to its closed position rapidly and consistently.
• Nitrogen Benefits: Nitrogen's stable density at high temperatures maintains consistent pressure, preventing valve float and corrosion.
• Pressure Release: A small valve releases excess pressure or oil buildup, ensuring proper function.

I was commenting on drag race motors with center cams not F-1 going back to center cams, thanks for the info on how they do over head cams in F-1