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Sheryl Crow's global Warming suggestion!
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mike cummings
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Until she gets on national TV and demonstrates on camera to the rest of us how to make that one piece count, I'm not changing my habits.
mike cummings
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rocketman
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If you guys didn't think this whole global warming business isn't a bunch of sh!t I'm sure you do now. I wonder if the newspapers will limit there paper to one sheet?
If global warming was so dier that we should use one sheet then shouldn't she cancel her tour? Even if the busses use bio-fuel what about all the people that drive to her concerts? what about all the paper cups that will be used? What about all the power that will be used?
Cancel your tour or shut up!
If global warming was so dier that we should use one sheet then shouldn't she cancel her tour? Even if the busses use bio-fuel what about all the people that drive to her concerts? what about all the paper cups that will be used? What about all the power that will be used?
Cancel your tour or shut up!
Paul Berglund
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Yikes!...dang ever heard of pine tar for pete's sake!!
Not shaking hands with that dude!! Keep yer pee-pee mitts away!
And as far as using only one piece of toilet paper goes...not after a late night of Mexican food and beer!!
Not shaking hands with that dude!! Keep yer pee-pee mitts away!
And as far as using only one piece of toilet paper goes...not after a late night of Mexican food and beer!!
You guy's look @ a concert rider and are ready to hang her for her desires while making a buck?
I have done work for her on her RUNYON CANYON home in the Hollywood Hills and she does practice what she preaches.
Her garden and foliage are drought tolerant type of plants....cars are all hybrids...and her pool is self cleaning and uses recycled water...along w/ her solar panels...heck she even paid the City of Los Angeles to pipe in recycled water for her backyard hardscape..
She does practice what she preaches is alot more than I do...
And to who would'nt shake her hand??? Sheryl is very top shelf...
I have done work for her on her RUNYON CANYON home in the Hollywood Hills and she does practice what she preaches.
Her garden and foliage are drought tolerant type of plants....cars are all hybrids...and her pool is self cleaning and uses recycled water...along w/ her solar panels...heck she even paid the City of Los Angeles to pipe in recycled water for her backyard hardscape..
She does practice what she preaches is alot more than I do...
And to who would'nt shake her hand??? Sheryl is very top shelf...
yoda
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Gotta chime in here... Some of you know that I have seen more than my fair share of Artist Riders in the past 25+ years. ALL of them would be considered "high maintenance" to the outside-the-industry eye.
Sheryl's rider is done wisely, as the daily routein is shifted to allow stocking of the busses with items that everyone- Sheryl, Band and Crew- want at the end of their 20-hour day. It's like going grocery shopping every day- you wouldn't go to the store and buy the same Kool-Aid and PopTarts day in and dy out (BTW- those items make alot of riders, as well as PB&J and Captain Crunch..)
On monday, it may be Bombay Sapphire day, tuesday a few bottles of wine...By the time monday rolls back around, its time for a new Bombay. Its not like band and crew (much less the talent..) goes grocery shopping.. And does anyone here realize that NONE of this stuff is just given to her- all of the things requested come off the TOP of the deal.
As far as the ability to be "Green" and still have all the busses and trucks- folks, none of you would pay 25 bucks, much less 65, to come to see her strum an acoustic guitar on a blank white stage. Three semis haul sound (1), lights (1) and staging, band gear and wardrobe, as well as the office (1), four busses move a crew and office staff (2), band (1) and her and her assistants (1) around the country pretty freakin efficiently (trust me- I fly the same amount of people, and it isn't easy). Everything is diesel, all the trucking/busses are top of the line, well maintained vehicles and are driven by professional truck and bus drivers, not some "buddy of the band". For all the junk that we tow around to put it up in the morning and take it down that night, this is a pretty efficient method. It's not like we're just towing around a S/C car or two and a golf cart (in the same 53' rig)
.Yeah, she babbles about the enviorment, but that's what she has a platform to do- if you don't want to hear it, don't buy the ticket. But to think that she, or any other touring artist are "high maintenance" because of their shopping list is pretty ridiculous.
Bob
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We booked Sheryl into Rack N' Roll three weeks before her first album hit the charts. Gave her the door ($4 or $5 a head, if I remember right), dinner and three or four hotel rooms at the Holiday Inn down the street. We provided sound and lights. We got a great act real cheap! ....and I thought Sheryl was pretty cool.
Sheryl can use two squares, I don't need one to P. ...call it a carbon credit freebie!
Terry, I think I finally figured out what you really do for a living. You're a Hollywood pool boy!
Sheryl can use two squares, I don't need one to P. ...call it a carbon credit freebie!
Terry, I think I finally figured out what you really do for a living. You're a Hollywood pool boy!
Gotta chime in here... Some of you know that I have seen more than my fair share of Artist Riders in the past 25+ years. ALL of them would be considered "high maintenance" to the outside-the-industry eye.
Sheryl's rider is done wisely, as the daily routein is shifted to allow stocking of the busses with items that everyone- Sheryl, Band and Crew- want at the end of their 20-hour day. It's like going grocery shopping every day- you wouldn't go to the store and buy the same Kool-Aid and PopTarts day in and dy out (BTW- those items make alot of riders, as well as PB&J and Captain Crunch..)
On monday, it may be Bombay Sapphire day, tuesday a few bottles of wine...By the time monday rolls back around, its time for a new Bombay. Its not like band and crew (much less the talent..) goes grocery shopping.. And does anyone here realize that NONE of this stuff is just given to her- all of the things requested come off the TOP of the deal.
As far as the ability to be "Green" and still have all the busses and trucks- folks, none of you would pay 25 bucks, much less 65, to come to see her strum an acoustic guitar on a blank white stage. Three semis haul sound (1), lights (1) and staging, band gear and wardrobe, as well as the office (1), four busses move a crew and office staff (2), band (1) and her and her assistants (1) around the country pretty freakin efficiently (trust me- I fly the same amount of people, and it isn't easy). Everything is diesel, all the trucking/busses are top of the line, well maintained vehicles and are driven by professional truck and bus drivers, not some "buddy of the band". For all the junk that we tow around to put it up in the morning and take it down that night, this is a pretty efficient method. It's not like we're just towing around a S/C car or two and a golf cart (in the same 53' rig)
Yeah, she babbles about the enviorment, but that's what she has a platform to do- if you don't want to hear it, don't buy the ticket. But to think that she, or any other touring artist are "high maintenance" because of their shopping list is pretty ridiculous.
Martin, do you think Sheryl "Eats" Crow pays for those Amenities and requests? I remember a 60 minute interview with her, they showed her riding around in a 64-67 Corvette. These people are soo Arrogant it sickens me! They want all of us to give up our luxurys and freedoms and exempt themselves! Does she mention how much Fuel those 18 Wheelers Burn taking her show from Town to Town? As for her Concerts, I wouldn't go for free!
When these people have the Stones to live as they preach then I'll listen, but everyone knows that'll never happen!
yoda
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Martin, do you think Sheryl "Eats" Crow pays for those Amenities and requests? I remember a 60 minute interview with her, they showed her riding around in a 64-67 Corvette. These people are soo Arrogant it sickens me! They want all of us to give up our luxurys and freedoms and exempt themselves! Does she mention how much Fuel those 18 Wheelers Burn taking her show from Town to Town? As for her Concerts, I wouldn't go for free!
When these people have the Stones to live as they preach then I'll listen, but everyone knows that'll never happen!
Joe- yes, she does pay for those amenities and requests. In contract negotiations, the rider is presented, and the promoter and Artist management decide on the Artist's fees and then how much will be deducted for all the items off of that number. You can "rent" a band as long as you have enough cash to do it- anybody can...
For artists that don't tour their own sound and lights, the cost of the Rider comes off the top. Want a case of Crystal (seen it- most rappers couldn't figure out why they didn't get paid at the end of the night)? You, the Artist, will be paying for it. A typical hospitality rider will cost the artist $2-5Gs a day for 3 squares for the crew and band, water, towels, liqour, a couple of runners and after-show takeout. Lights and sound are $5-15K per show depending on the production requirements. And I have paid Union Labor bills in New York that have been $20K+ for a crew of 15. Now you know why a concert ticket costs so much. The Artist is Contracted at anywhere from $35-200K per show, depending on venue size and popularity. The promoter will take 10-35% on the Artist's merchandise, and takes ALL of the Parking and Concessions in 90% of shows. The Artist also pays the touring personnel- weekly salarys range from $800 to $4K for crew members, and $2-7K for band members. Each.
Nobody goes away broke from these things, except for the public. That is why we try to put on a great show- if you suck once, the paying audience won't be coming back.
As far as trucking is concerned, it is no different than any other company shipping its goods over-the-road every day... Fuel runs about $500 per vehicle every night, plus vehicle rental and drivers salaries, I always figure about a Grand a day per vehicle, taking into account fuel being $3 in one state and $2.50 somewhere else.. Pilot Truck Stops are my friend!!!
And when you see a musician or actor or athlete tooling around in some vehicle on TV, don't always belive that the car they're in is their own (or the house, for that matter).. When I worked with Foreigner, Mick Jones would love to ride Harleys on his day off. Our Tour Manager's job was to find him one wherever he could, and it would only cost him an autographed photo of Mick sitting on the bike in front of some Harley shop. If she owns a Vette, she is pretty smart (good investment), but more likely than not, it was a loaner for the interview suggested by some Production Director for the interview.
Once again, if Sheryl (or any other public figure, politicians included) wants to stand on her soap box and preach, she may OR may not have a clue about what she's talking about it... like MOST people. Still no laws out there that says you have to listen to them or agree that they are right.
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mick
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Bob
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Also the promoter on occasion. Accept the upfront contract and addendum(s) without negotiating either can cost you serious money even with a successful door and pre-show ticket sales. Throw weather into the mix and the promoter can take a serious bath. The contracts I worked as a promoter required half of the entertainer's contract to be paid at least 6 weeks prior to the show date (exceptions -- touring groups looking to fill an empty travel night), with the remainder to be paid before inload. Three snow flakes the night of a show meant disaster for my wallet. In my case, booking and promoting shows in a small venue, in a secondary market, was all too often a crap shoot, with worse odds than Vegas!
yoda
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True true, Bob.. I'm so used to dealing with LiveNation and the old ClearChannel chaps who NEVER took a true beating like you guys down in the trenches... 50 Up and 50 at Doors leaves lots of room for Mother Nature to hammer the small promoter.. I have friends here in Tucson that try and do shows that are over their heads occasionally, but if the stars align right for them, they get rich quick... It's all about reading (and understanding) what you put that John Hancock to..
