Exactly, Rich. A couple of weeks ago I went back and looked at the Mater in December for each of the preceding two years (that are still here on line), and just like this year, there's a lot of "sky is falling" going around -- although admittedly this year is much worse. Then it starts to get closer to Pomona and people get out there, one way or another. They either get renewed fire under them to find a sponsor, or they decide to give it a shot without one to start with, or... But it's never as bleak as it seems in December.