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Hey Don... I hear Tony is on the ground at Ft. Hood for the presentation ceremony tomorrow... I couldn't believe you could get much more proud of the boy after Number 7, but then he turns around and does this :) Pretty damn awesome young man you have raised their, sir!!



When people are looking at sports heros lately, there isn't much good to be said, and yet, they seem to have a lot to report every day, all day on the "news"... I hope to God this gets the coverage it deserves in the mainsteam press- a great sports champion honoring TRUE heros.
 
Just bumping it up. Dons eyes are getting kinda older. He might have a hard time finding this thread.....LOL:D
 
At this time I was still running a stocker. A Olds that was no longer drivable on the street but I was having a ball. A youg 18 year old racing and going to electronics school. My parents let me do my thing with the race car and when I tried to get fiberglass parts made for the olds by Fiberglass Ltd., I waited and waited and they never got produced but Ron Pellegrini talked me into spending $3,700 and getting a chassis made by R & B Automotive, Dennis Rolain and John Buttera with a fiberglass body by Fiberglass Ltd. I had a injected hemi motor and a torqflight made by Bob and off I went. I started racing a injected Funny Car on the UDRA circuit in the midwest. Fun, Fun, Fun. Did that for a couple of years and learned a lot from Pellegrini but it was just the beginning. I then bought a Loghee chassis with a Barracuda body on it from Butch Leal. He had it built and decided he did not want to go racing with a supercharger on his motor so I bought it and built a blown Funny Car. The first run I made was at Union Grove in Kenosha, Wisc. Broke the cable the parachute was mounted with in the lights and went off the end of the track and hurt the body so back to work I went. Things went well that summer and I decided to go to California in the fall of 1967. I called other racers as I was going out West to set up some match races and was able to get some races booked in California also. Raced John Dekker in Denver and then out to California. The first race I had in Los Angeles was at Orange County and it was a disaster. I broke the transmission and my day was done. At that time we used a open trailer with a small box on the front of it to carry most everything and tried to race. It was a difficult time but as the weeks went on I set all of the records at every track I raced at and won a lot. John Hogan worked for me at that time and he was friends with Tim Bebee and I feel that is where we got our information and ideas on how to make power. We kicked tail that winter and that was it, I turned PRO.

More when I have time
 
This was in the NHRA. Dragster Insider back in Nov.
I thought it was an Interesting story.

The Johnny Appleseed of the Fiberglass ForestTuesday, November 02, 2010
Posted by: Phil Burgess


Although carbon fiber has replaced fiberglass as the material of choice for Funny Car bodies, there's not a longtime fan around who doesn't recall Steve Evans hawking flopper shows and promising fans that "the pits will look like a fiberglass forest."

Every trend has to have its ground zero, and for the fiberglass-bodied Funny Car, that was Chicago, at the inspiration of Ron Pellegrini and the hand of Chuck Veseley, whose one-off garage-built Super Mustang project turned into Fiberglass Ltd., the first and premier manufacturer of Funny Car bodies from the mid-1960s well into the 1970s.
(Above) Ron Pellegrini's road to Funny Car fame began with this Ford Thunderbolt, campaigned for Hawkinson Ford. (Below) The powertrain from the Thunderbolt was later transferred into this successful Mustang.

It was a chance meeting at a Detroit auto show between promoter Pellegrini, who had raced gas dragsters for years and even piloted Tommy Ivo's four-engine Showboat, and a representative from Chicagoland car dealer Hawkinson Ford that got the ball rolling.

"I had a big racing display there, and he told me he thought he could get some money out of Ford through their dealer-development program and would I be interested in doing some work for them," Pellegrini recalled. "He bought three Hi-Riser Thunderbolts, and I started racing one of them. I was pretty successful with that car, so I told him I'd like to build a Mustang. He got a brand-new Mustang from the factory, and we put the entire Thunderbolt combination in the Mustang and were very successful with that, too, running in A/FX. We won a big race at U.S. 30, won the World Series at Cordova, and a bunch of others in a three-month span. We ran the Mustang at Ford proving grounds because I was hoping that I would get the same kind of deal that Dearborn Steel and Tubing had with Ford, which was to build 100 cars for them, but I never got that deal, but I did get to meet [Ford Racing chief] Jacque Passino.

"Over the winter, I was watching what Chrysler was doing with their A/FX cars, altering the wheelbase and using acid-dipping to lighten them. I went back to Jacque and told him Ford needed to build a tube-chassis car with an all-fiberglass body. The decision on whether or not to build it dragged on into 1965, but I went ahead and started booking the car anyway, even though I didn't even have it yet.

"They finally came back and told me they didn’t want to do it because the car would be too light and that it would never run good, so I decided to do it myself."
Pellegrini, left, Chuck Veseley, and the car that started it all

Pellegrini took a brand-new Mustang to a local fiberglass shop where, by chance, former schoolmate Veseley was working. They hadn't seen each other in a dozen years, but before long, Pellegrini had drafted his former chum to build the first mold in his home garage. Pellegrini bought the Dennison, Arlasky, and Knox fuel roadster and tucked it beneath their fiberglass Ford shell, and the Super Mustang was created.

It didn’t take long for the interest of their peers to be piqued, and requests for similar bodies began to roll in. Pellegrini and Veseley created Fiberglass Ltd. and in November 1965 went into the full-time business of making fiberglass auto parts -- front ends, doors, lids, fenders, hood scoops, plus special projects such as silo caps and even ambulance tops – and it was heaven to Funny Car racers wanting fiberglass versions of their favorite cars. The Mr. Norm team and Arnie Beswick were among his earliest customers.

"We had nothing in the bank so to speak of," Pellegrini told Bob Hegge, who penned a story about the company for the June 1967 edition of Rod & Custom, from which some of these photos are reproduced. "We rented some space, had a few hand tools, a couple of hand drills, and some material for glass working. Most of all, we had Chuck's fiberglass knowledge. I knew nothing about making bodies."
Fiberglass Ltd.'s shop on Washington Boulevard, circa 1967
Workers waxed the inside of a mold for easier removal of bodies.
Putting the finishing touches on a Camaro body

In five months, they had outgrown a 2,500-square-foot shop and outgrew its 4,800-square-foot replacement before finding a permanent home in a 13,000-square-foot shop on Washington Boulevard in Hillside, Ill., in February 1967. They were learning along the way how to build better Funny Car bodies, and the early process was very labor-intensive. "No one had done this before; it was all trial and error," he noted.

"Making the first mold would probably take 10 days from beginning to end," he remembered. "First you’d have to clay in all of the cracks so you could pull the mold off, and that alone would take two to three days. You'd have to put clay in the grille openings, the taillights, the molding around the windshield. Then we'd spray it with PBA, which was a parting agent, so the fiberglass wouldn't stick to the car, then you’d spray the gelcoat on it, then you laid the body on it.

"Once we had the mold of the stock car, we'd take the front and rear wheelwells out and then put a cap on them [for tire clearance], then relay the altered fender. It took forever, and we were falling behind more and more, and the bodies were heavy as sin anyway with all of the add-on parts, so we decided to make a second mold of a changed body, and that really speeded things up."

That process proved necessary when Dodge introduced its new Charger body, which was super-swoopy but also very large and led to the development of the narrow, smaller mini Charger.

"We must have cut the Charger body into 100 pieces," said Pellegrini, "and every time we put it together, it never fit exactly right because of all of the compound curves, so we were screwing parts on here and there. Once we got it right, we were able to make a mold. The Charger was so much bigger than the Barracuda that I tried to bring it into the size of the Barracuda. The main thing I wanted to do was move the blower location. On these cars, the blower was under the hood in front of the windshield, so an explosion would lift the whole body off. I elongated the body so that it was more in the windshield area."

The duo later got the idea to add phenolic balls, which had been developed during World War II to protect wooden aircraft-carrier decks, into their fiberglass mix to strengthen the wheelwells without adding a lot of weight. Pellegrini and Veseley also began adding foam strips to the underside of the hood and roofs to stop the bodies from collapsing at the higher speeds quickly being attained.
The Dodge Chargers of Romeo Palamides (top) and Don Schumacher (above) were two of the bodies to come out of the Fiberglass Ltd. shop.

During this time, Pellegrini partnered with John Buttera and Dennis Rollain of R&B Engineering to form Automotive Research and Engineering to build ready-ro-run race cars, and their customers included Don Gay Sr. and Chicagoan Don Schumacher.

"We leased out part of the shop to Acme Coil and Transformer and Schumacher Electric for Don Schumacher to race out of," said Pellegrini. "His dad, Al, asked me to keep an eye on him because the kid was fearless. He had a new Olds 442 that he wanted me to duplicate, but we ended up building him a whole car instead."

Business was booming, and bodies – at a now-modest-sounding price of $1,000 apiece -- were flying out the door as fast as they could make them.

We were making four or five bodies a week, working a shift and a half to stay up with the demand," he remembered. "Don Hardy used to come and pick up four at a time, and we'd ship to Logghe every weekend."

Marv Eldridge's Fiberglass Trends on the West Coast emerged as his only legitimate rival, though "some fly-by-night operators down South" began taking Fiberglass Ltd.'s bodies and making their own molds.

"I was getting tired of people just duplicating the second mold; they had no investment in it, no hard work to make the body, but they were profiting from our work," said Pellegrini. "I got so frustrated that I had a Mustang about 80 percent done, but I just cut it up.

Before long, Fiberglass Ltd. began focusing on other fiberglass pieces, including a simulated wheel and trunk for a Thunderbird to replicate the Lincoln Town Car look, and that business, Uni-Corp., really took off, too. "We'd make 30 to 40 decklids a day, and I eventually sold that business to a guy who was making grille caps for the same kinds of cars.
One of Pellegrini's final Funny Car rides was this Dodge Charger, which bannered the newly created merger company Uni-Sun.

Pellegrini partnered with that guy, whose name was John Martino, whose parents, June and Louis, were early part owners in the McDonald's Corp. They merged Uni-Corp. with Martino's company, USA Sunroof, to create Uni-Sun, which Pellegrini ran for five years. Martino also had another company, Avanti, maker of radio antennas, which Pellegrini eventually ran, too, and his timing was impeccable as it was during the CB radio boom of the 1970s.

"I took it from a $600,000-a-year company to $18 million a year before I retired in 1978. Chicago Funny Car shoe Ron Colson also was an Avanti employee, which eventually led to Avanti's sponsorship of the Colson-driven Hawaiian.

Today, Pellegrini, 75, lives with wife Adele in San Luis Obispo, Calif.
 
Thanks Don---I appreciate you taking the time from your busy schedule to give us the insight. Hope you have a Merry Christmas and a blessed holliday season.
 
I hope somebody writes a book about those wild and wooly times of nitro racing, so many great personalities, Jungle Jim, Connie K., Shirley M., Don S., Don P., Tom M., etc., etc., etc.

It's too bad Richard Schroder isn't around to tell some of his stories !
When he was announcing at races like the 64 Funny Car events at OCIR he used to tell some hilarious stories !
There were a lot of stuff going on back when the "big boys" all used ramp trucks to haul the floppers. And racing several times a week with the next race many miles down the road....:D
 
I've always loved this story, copied from Competionplus.com's "War Stories"

You stole the car fair and square – you keep it -
One of the more unique experiences that I had was in racing on the East Coast in New York. I don’t remember what track it was at, but we went back to the motel and parked our car in the parking lot. We got up the next morning and everything was gone. It had disappeared. I had a complete operation back home, so we went back there and got it. About three weeks later, I was out on the East Coast match racing with Jungle Jim. One of his crew guys told me that he saw my rig over in Freddie DeNane’s place. Freddie DeNane was a car thief out of Brooklyn, and he ran a car back then, and he was connected with the syndicate. He was connected with a group that thought nothing of killing people. I went ahead and got ahold of the police and put them on it.

Freddie ended up turning on the syndicate and got into the witness protection program and moved down to Texas. Five years later, they found him hung from a bedpost. They actually killed Freddie’s brother and that’s why he turned on them. He was a crazy, crazy individual and did not know how to read or write. He thought nothing of killing people. There’s a book out called Murder Machine and you can find a picture of “Broadway Freddie” in it - that was his nickname and it ended up on the side of the car he stole from me. The sport got fairly involved with those kinds of people and they often used the sport to launder money. There was one guy from South Chicago who ran a chop shop operation and got involved in the sport, and they killed him right in front of his chop shop. The sport got really questionable in the Seventies and that’s one of the reasons I got out back then. I was the kind of guy that tried to be nice with everyone and I saw myself getting in trouble if I stayed involved. We had the energy crisis and sponsorships were hard to find.

Anyway, getting back to the situation, I was racing out on Long Island a couple of week’s later after notifying the police and Freddie DeNane came out to the race track and visited me with a Thompson sub-machine gun. He was a serious individual, so I said, “No problem, keep whatever you have…I don’t need to know anything further.” – Don Schumacher (originally published May 2003)
 
I love hearing the stories about midwest racing. I worked for Bob Doss at Oswego and I had the distinction of setting up the clocks on Saturday to make sure it all worked. We used Fosdick clocks and there was this secret Johnny showed me. There was a box in the building behind the starting line and you could intensify the light beam. If you backed it off real quick, it would show a red light. I'm not saying anybody ever played shenanigans but you could. I would have my friends come out and make a pass down the strip and one Saturday one of the neighbors showed up really pissed saying he called Bob and Bob was flying his plane over to kick my you know what. We left quickly and Bob never said a word the next day.

Man, we had so many cool cars with at least 30 or 40 funny cars and maybe a hundred Pro Stocks (SSE) in the Chicagoland area. I know most of the guys are interested in F/C's but who can forget Joe Satmary, Rich Zobel, and Kenny Perry's Camaros. Don was part of that group but went national and always had the best prepared car. He still maintains the highest standards.

BTW, Oswego Drag Raceway is still there behind the Jewel-Osco store.
 
The strip itself is still there. You can see the staging area from the road and the burnout area behind the starting line. If you go to Mapquest, search for Rt. 34 and Orchard Rd, Oswego. On the left side you will see a shopping center. Follow down Rt. 34 and you will see the top of Edwards Medical Center. Right behind it (to the left) is the old pit entrance road which is clearly visible and you will also see the strip itself although there's a lot of trees. The City of Oswego has an Oswego Dragstrip days every summer and a lot of the old regulars show up.
 
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