Not a good day for Force Racing

[scsp390]

CONGRATULATIONS to Cruz Pedregon!!!!

 

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Alan and Dean...back to your own corners.

 

[CrewGuy]

Alan and Dean...back to your own corners.

He started it daddy!

 

[None]

Hey Murdouch.... kiss my a$$. I call it like I see it!

No matter why Force did what he did. You shouldn't be a moderator, but you are an a$$ whole and have been from day 1.

 

[rollingthunder]

CONGRATULATIONS to Cruz Pedregon!!!!

Way to go with the win cruz and team !!!!

 

[the zone]

Another good comeback Barrett!

I guess you don'/tunderstand how the auto shut off works.
The fault here is two fold. Force probably should have gotten out of the car right at the start when he could not back up (the spur of the moment though, in the heat of battle was likely the reason he went down track. and He was not thinking about the auto shut off when he went down track. Also the NHRA person (electronic guru) who looks after the leahy switch should have overrode it (if in fact he could). Based on the situation and the likely reason he stopped on the track you guys should be saying, "oops I guess I was quick to judge". But of course no one will.
Again quick to judge on this board without thinking, especially when it comes to the JFR team.

How old are you Barrett, if you get your feeling hurt cause you are called a dolt (when if fact your quick to judge proves you and the others did not think before you come on here), you need to grow up. You likely will be called worse things than that in your life time. You need to find a thicker skin dude.

Jim I am surprised by your quick to judge as well.
Dean

 

[TR]

Just saw the whole deal. John Force didn't do anything wrong. It was just bad luck. He pulled the car to the right but as stated the automatic shut off and chute release were activated. I am not a 100% John Force fan but he reacted very well, the best I have seen from him in quite some time. Sorry if I posted anything negative earlier on this.

 

[Jenn]

and He was not thinking about the auto shut off when he went down track. Also the NHRA person (electronic guru) who looks after the leahy switch should have overrode it (if in fact he could).

I think it's a situation of not being able to think of every possible scenario which is why making safety devices in general is so tough.

Most of the shut offs I've seen have happened a lot closer to the starting line so they can be pushed back behind the line. I would have probably gone through the typical scenarios and not the atypical.

If a rapidly accelerating car crossed over the center line and into the lane of a slower moving car, and the slower moving car has the opportunity (and awareness) to gun the throttle to get out of the way...Nobody thinks that will happen til it happens.

I don't care who you are racing or rooting for, you never wanna lose or the true racers, don't wanna win like that.

 

[twostep]

Well, now that we know exactly what happened and how things were handled, does anyone feel any different?

Not trying to make excuses for Force, but he was probably thinking about what the h*ll just happened, how his luck could be so rotten and wondering if his Championship hopes had just flown the coop. Not knowing exactly what did happen, he did what professional racers instinctively do - move to the side of the track, out of the groove, once he realized the engine had shut off.

In retrospect, he should have taken the first turnoff while still under power. No doubt his plan was to take the turnoff where the public road crosses the strip, but he forgot completely about the auto shutoff, which worked exactly as designed.

Force apologized to Creasy personally and on television. Accept his apology and move on.

 

[T.Smith]

Another good comeback Barrett!

I guess you don't understand how the auto shut off works.
The fault here is two fold. Force probably should have gotten out of the car right at the start when he could not back up (the spur of the moment though, in the heat of battle was likely the reason he went down track. and He was not thinking about the auto shut off when he went down track. Also the NHRA person (electronic guru) who looks after the leahy switch should have overrode it (if in fact he could). Based on the situation and the likely reason he stopped on the track you guys should be saying, "oops I guess I was quick to judge". But of course no one will.
Again quick to judge on this board without thinking, especially when it comes to the JFR team.

How old are you Barrett, if you get your feeling hurt cause you are called a dolt (when if fact your quick to judge proves you and the others did not think before you come on here), you need to grow up. You likely will be called worse things than that in your life time. You need to find a thicker skin dude.

Jim I am surprised by your quick to judge as well.
Dean

I to am a bit surprised about the quick judgement on this.

Having recently been in the situation of not being able to back up, as recent as the 2009 US Nationals. I found it interesting the amount of time Force was given to try to get the car in reverse and the very little time we were given. Especially considering that we do a much shorter burnout than Force and I was already running towards the car before it even came to a stop...but like Force said, he was going to keep trying until NHRA told him to get off the track, but at what point do you throw in the towel for the sake of not screwing up the person your racing.

When a driver is out on the track whacking the throttle, I'm wondering if maybe that track worker is a little reluctant to walk up to the car and tell to drive it off the track.

It also appeared he got caught by the auto shutoff. The trick to that is to override it yourself and gain enough speed to get off the track.

Is there a short turn off at Reading and if so, did he know where it was located?

 

[my friends call me Zappy]

Lookin at the tape, John did what he was told. The offical signaled him to drive it down, and he did.
Looking back it would have been better to get John out where he was, but with Johns car still running, I can see why the call was made to have John clear the track.
Unfortunate for Dale, but not intentional on Johns part I'm sure.

 

[turbo ken]

The first turn off is about 220' past the 1/4 mile, the second turnoff (right where they block road crossing) is about 1280' from the first turnoff.

I wasn't surprised at all about the quick judgements on this (it's expected here!).

 

[Buns]

He's been racing how many years, won 14 championships and doesn't know to get his sh!t off of the track so his competitor can make his pass? Too bad NHRA couldn't fine him for being stupid.

You're acting like an idiot. Find something else to do other than come on the internet and complain like a baby. Almost every one of your posts is some kind of complaint.

The way people go out of their way to complain about JFR is ridiculous. He's done more for the sport in the modern era than anyone else. If you don't agree with that, you're just dismissing him for no reason other than your own hatred.

 

[Bullard Anderson]

This was a GREAT first round. Just awesome. You don't get these a lot in life so I did my best to soaking it all in! What a GREAT first round! GREAT!

3 big L's for Force.

 

[BaldyLochs]

They still got more TV time than anybody . With the other incident, it was a little overkill, showing father and mother going down to Ashley's rescue...

As for John's attempts to get the RPM's down - I didn't like the sight of his crewguy running up to the car while Force is in there burping the motor.... that coulda ended up real bad for the guy running down to the car..... I'm just sayin.... and no, I only watched it once on the telecast - I didn't review it 60 times - so I don't know in reality how close the guy was to the car.
And we were watching it to, wondering why the hell he got out of the car while the other guy is staged & waiting.... and even more so, why the hell he crawled back in through the hatch as opposed to the dude on the ATV lifting the top.... John musta' been born via C-section. Whatever though; sometimes you're the bug; sometimes you're the windshield...... ticket buyers don't come in hoping to see only a one-lane race.

 

[mick]

in years past i seem to remember drivers pulling car over to wall, climbing
out and over wall and watching single run by competitor?
nhra does not want ANY car on track anymore if single pass is being made?

whole situation seemed odd to me too.

 

[Buns]

in years past i seem to remember drivers pulling car over to wall, climbing
out and over wall and watching single run by competitor?
nhra does not want ANY car on track anymore if single pass is being made?

whole situation seemed odd to me too.

Von Smith did this a couple races back when his Pro Mod wouldn't reverse. They ran the other car and it wasn't a big deal.

 

[Huge]

in years past i seem to remember drivers pulling car over to wall, climbing
out and over wall and watching single run by competitor?
nhra does not want ANY car on track anymore if single pass is being made?

whole situation seemed odd to me too.

Rick Stewart will still let a car make a pass if the broken car is close to the starting line but Rick would never let a car make a pass with the broken car that far down track. Case in point would be Terry Haddock. He couldn't back up and he got out and jumped over the wall and Rick sent the other car.

 

[the zone]

They might do this now if the stalled car was only 100-200 feet down track. But 600 feet is definately past no man's land.

How does the crow taste Barrett

Dean

 

[Bullard Anderson]

With all the controversy ensuing in this thread I didn't want the fact that JFR went 0 for 3 in Round 1 getting lost !!! As for the other stuff included in this thread...."I'm not complaining about the amount of ice cubes in my SoCo on the rocks when I didn't pay for it"