my friends call me Zappy
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NHRA did'nt go far enough. They should ban ALL trackside photography.
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NHRA has banned all trackside flash photography
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HEMI6point1
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my friends call me Zappy
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One can still get "cool shots" , they just should'nt be trackside.
Kris
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There are all kinds of sporting events (swim, for example, due to the start system) I'm not allowed to use flash. I've gotten good at adjusting ISO and shutter speed to compensate then fix the rest in Photoshop.
I don't like to shoot trackside. Done it a couple times at bracket races or divisionals at Pacific Raceways. Basically I know I'm easily distracted and I'm safer if I'm not down there.
If I remember correctly, maybe two or three years ago I was told that photogs would only be allowed to shoot trackside at the NW Nationals during Friday qualifying (when I was trying to get credentials for another person in the company who would shoot) to provide a better sightline for fans. Not sure if they've been consistent with that.
Still, interesting decision.
I don't like to shoot trackside. Done it a couple times at bracket races or divisionals at Pacific Raceways. Basically I know I'm easily distracted and I'm safer if I'm not down there.
If I remember correctly, maybe two or three years ago I was told that photogs would only be allowed to shoot trackside at the NW Nationals during Friday qualifying (when I was trying to get credentials for another person in the company who would shoot) to provide a better sightline for fans. Not sure if they've been consistent with that.
Still, interesting decision.
Sean D, shondoo
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Forgive me for coming in so late in the coversation, especially if I've overlooked something, but why is this just now a problem? Starting line flash photography has been going on for decades. Is it the advancement of the photography equipment that is now bringing these issues to light? Has it always been an issue and they're just now figuring out that the cameras could be/are playing a role? Both?
For what it's worth, I've done some driving at night doing some nostaglia and match racing and although I don't have the same view that Master Minick has (whom I have a tremendous amount of respect for), I always noticed it. However, being pro-tree stuff, it happens after the fact, so it was never a distraction. As a matter of fact, for me at least, it added to the intensity of the run and I actually liked it.
Sean D
For what it's worth, I've done some driving at night doing some nostaglia and match racing and although I don't have the same view that Master Minick has (whom I have a tremendous amount of respect for), I always noticed it. However, being pro-tree stuff, it happens after the fact, so it was never a distraction. As a matter of fact, for me at least, it added to the intensity of the run and I actually liked it.
Sean D
swervin
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To add to the discussion, does any of the ESPN video equipment use infrared or other type transmitter that may cause the issue?
Like others have said, flash photography on the starting line has been around for many years and didnt appear to be an issue. Makes you wonder if it was anykind of outside interference and more of a timing problem looking for a place to lay blame.
Bob
Like others have said, flash photography on the starting line has been around for many years and didnt appear to be an issue. Makes you wonder if it was anykind of outside interference and more of a timing problem looking for a place to lay blame.
Bob
MM
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Maybe it's just because my eyes are closed?
Of course, now that I have said I don't even notice them, they're probably going to drive me crazy next time.
Sean D, shondoo
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Maybe it's just because my eyes are closed?
Just don't hold me responsible..........
LMAO!!!!Sean D
Kris
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My boss calls the speed flash he uses 'the light of God' because it's so bright. My Nikon SB-600 speed flash can light up a dark room in terms of exposure.
And all for just a few bills.
FC138fan
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I like how the staff at BIR are very diligent at keeping people off the fences because it interferes with people in the stands sightlines of the cars. Unfortunately, they have no control over the photographers who line the start and yeah, make it very difficult - impossible - to get a clean shot of a car in mid burnout.
sdwarf36
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Hmm..interseting points about the prestaged and staged lights still on when the red is on.
RebilasPhoto
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Just because flashes have more power doesn't mean photographers actually pump the flash to full power. Typically when I shoot with flash at night I have the flash at 1/4 power at most but in most situations 1/8th to 1/16th power. I stand by my previous comment on a different forum that if Jeff Foster can replicate the problem with my camera/flash from a photo area I will hand him 2k in cash. If photographers are indeed the problem, come take my money Jeff. Should be easy right?...
Ugly one
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Don't hold your breath for that call.
Professor Dave
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There is also the possibility that the photographer could take a picture of both cars as the tree is coming down and the flash throws off both drivers-it makes so much sense to ban flashes around the starting line.
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