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NHRA Gets Tough on Oildowns
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Compton and Light. What else do you need to know?
I have no problem with the nhra trying to eliminate the down time, I was in dallas and we were down about an hour and that was lucky, but join me when i say this, I understand a strict policy but isn't this kinda overkill and far to harsh?
I can see the nhra is coming off, in terms of oil downs, a terrible race but every now and then that's gonna happen. It seems out of line to just throw out a run, runs should only be ousted if your over the nitro percentage, not the minimal body drops we seen on force and wilk.
NHRA should just go back to the old system of money and/or points. That was effective, this new system i see how it could hurt alot of the smaller teams. It could take a nice friday night run and throw it out and the team dnq's saturday. Bottom line, money and or points, don't mess with runs.
I can see the nhra is coming off, in terms of oil downs, a terrible race but every now and then that's gonna happen. It seems out of line to just throw out a run, runs should only be ousted if your over the nitro percentage, not the minimal body drops we seen on force and wilk.
NHRA should just go back to the old system of money and/or points. That was effective, this new system i see how it could hurt alot of the smaller teams. It could take a nice friday night run and throw it out and the team dnq's saturday. Bottom line, money and or points, don't mess with runs.
Seems to me its because everyone is *****ing and complaining about downtime. But lets go ahead and blame it all on Glendora. Might as well get in one more weekend of complaints before the season is over.
The equipment and personel ar out there. Glendora refuses to pay for it. Less money for bonuses.
If there was a curfew at Las Vegas They would have canciled some rounds and been back at bar early and forgot about it by now.
Why even bring up scenerios that didn't happen?
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Or maybe a lower budget team will spend a grand on a new diaper, or engine bucket so they don't dump oil on the track. Or maybe instead of just trying to meet the minimum requirements they will spend some time and effort on containment.
It's supposed to be harsh, asking nicely wasn't doing any good.
If you don't want to be fined DON'T OIL THE TRACK!!
Nobody that sat through that Saturday in Las Vegas thinks this is to harsh.
Alan
It's supposed to be harsh, asking nicely wasn't doing any good.
If you don't want to be fined DON'T OIL THE TRACK!!
Nobody that sat through that Saturday in Las Vegas thinks this is to harsh.
Alan
luxexpress
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I didn't think that it was the lower budget teams that were the biggest offenders in Vegas. Sometimes it sounds like some think guys dump oil on purpose. I don't think the budget guys ever are trying to break anything, but I've heard plenty of the "big" guys brag about how many motors that they have sitting in the trailer. I sure hope this doesn't end up effecting the Championship.
clwill
Nitro Member
Or even Sunday. Agreed.
The recession and teams losing funding....or so says NHRA.
Mike, the 1000' rule was done more out of Shutdown safety than Parts attrition.
J
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May be a good thing.
No it wouldnt
mick
Nitro Member
joe, you are so wrong - safety was the main reason, reaction to fatality,
but parts attrition/cost savings were mentioned almost in the same breath.
it was said often after 1000' was implented that the explosions were
decreased, the speeds were down, the teams were saving money.........
which was met with skepticism here on this board.........
and the skeptics proved correct.
I think it is a good thing. If your cars not right dont bring it to the line. It has been consistent with some cars. This sport wont live without fans. I know things happen , just like our oil down in E1 do to we broke a rocker arm 3 seconds into run. But now as a team we are looking into better ways to contain oil incase something goes wrong. This rule will make you think twice on your tune up and condition of parts in car.
mick
Nitro Member
go with the 4 lane concept, just use 2 at a time, with possible exception
of sportsmen qualifying and elims on thursday and friday.
for the 4 -5 seconds a run lasts, the crew cleaning the 'bad' track will be
alerted as cars have backed from burnouts, they can pull equipment to far wall,
leave vehicle and jump wall while run takes place; as soon as cars are
past, back over the wall, into vehicles to resume cleanup, or respond to
on-track incident if needed......common wall between tracks to have hinged
openings.
both tracks can be used during qualifying to insure similar rubber build-up.
poll taken at end of saturday asking for track preference on sunday;
track they will try to use majority of time.
nitromethane explodes - what are you gonna' do? wrap entire motor in blanket?
of sportsmen qualifying and elims on thursday and friday.
for the 4 -5 seconds a run lasts, the crew cleaning the 'bad' track will be
alerted as cars have backed from burnouts, they can pull equipment to far wall,
leave vehicle and jump wall while run takes place; as soon as cars are
past, back over the wall, into vehicles to resume cleanup, or respond to
on-track incident if needed......common wall between tracks to have hinged
openings.
both tracks can be used during qualifying to insure similar rubber build-up.
poll taken at end of saturday asking for track preference on sunday;
track they will try to use majority of time.
nitromethane explodes - what are you gonna' do? wrap entire motor in blanket?
Amen my friend.
To the people that are saying that the "smaller" teams need to do more to with their containment devices needs to look at who actually did the damage. While there were some smaller teams that had issues, it is a problem across the board from the top down. The number 2 car in downtime is Dixon. He's a small team. And the last two to three races have seen massive damage by the top teams. Vegas had mutiple expolsions by "big" names as did Reading and Dallas. Go back and look at the damae at the last three races and yell at those teams for not having adequate equipment.
The big fines do NOTHING!!! Big teams pay them and small teams don't go!!!
Why punish teams who have worked their asses off to have no issues and now face some steep penalties if something small and insignificant happens resulting in oil. Only discourages them from even trying.
REMEMBER- NO ONE IS TRYING TO OIL THE TRACK UNLESS HE OR SHE DOES SOMETHING STUPID,LIKE SAY PEDAL A CAR THREE TO FOUR TIMES IN QUALIFYING RESULTING IN A HUGE FIREBALL AND OIL!!!
The big fines do NOTHING!!! Big teams pay them and small teams don't go!!!
Why punish teams who have worked their asses off to have no issues and now face some steep penalties if something small and insignificant happens resulting in oil. Only discourages them from even trying.
REMEMBER- NO ONE IS TRYING TO OIL THE TRACK UNLESS HE OR SHE DOES SOMETHING STUPID,LIKE SAY PEDAL A CAR THREE TO FOUR TIMES IN QUALIFYING RESULTING IN A HUGE FIREBALL AND OIL!!!
MM
Nitro Member
If they are going to do this, I think the fine should be representative of the delay they cause. If someone goes out there and drips a little bit and it takes 5 min to clean up, no harm no foul. Someone causes a 15-20 min delay, whack them 500 bucks. Someone goes out there and destroys the track then throw the big money fine at them. Everyone should be allowed one freebie as well because sometimes sh*t happens beyond the crews control!
